My corgi Ruby is 5 months old but still has multiple indoor accidents in a day. I lived with my parents for the summer and they would watch her while I worked every day and I don't think she got taken out as often as she should have and got used to going in the house. We have now moved in with my boyfriend and his yellow lab and she is still having many accidents despite being taken out often. For example, I took her outside right when we woke up and she peed (she always knows to pee when we go outside right away) and I wait for her to poop for about 10 minutes and she never does so we go inside. Not even 20 minutes after being inside she poops on the carpet (and had a little pee spot).
Last night she pooped and peed on the carpet so I put her nose in it and took her outside for a second, then I put her in her crate. After a half hour I took her out and she went upstairs and pooped again. I'm at my wits end. I feel like 5 months is too old to be having as many accidents as she does (probably 1-3 a day). Even when she lived at my parents house with me she was still taken outside at least 4 or 5 times a day and some of those times she would be put on a long line to play for an hour or so. After being outside for an hour she'd still come right inside and poop.
How can I nix this behavior? I know on one hand she's still a puppy but I feel like she doesn't even try to not go in the house. It's like she thinks both inside and outside are fair game.
What are you using to clean the spots? Use a good enzyme cleaner (Urine Off ?) not ammonia. The smell can trigger in house accidents. Also, somewhere she got the idea that going inside was OK, it doesn't matter where. So go back to square one, no alone time inside unless she is crated or in a pee safe area, outside frequently (every 1 1/2 to 2 hours at first. This is a good time to teach a potty command. Just say the command the second she squats (I say go potty) every time and praise going outside.If you are consistent this will be a great time saver later. Due to her age she may catch on pretty quick so hopefully this retraining period won't take long.
She has way too much freedom IMO. If she's not house trained then she should not be out of your sight. Use babygates or even leash her to your belt if you have to. She should not be able to sneak off and poop or pee without you noticing immediately. I don't think 4-5 potty breaks a day is anywhere near enough for a puppy either. I'd say take her out every two hours at least. You are probably going to have to be extra diligent with her since she has already learned that going in the house is acceptable.
Also, please don't rub her nose in it. Dogs live in the moment, she does not understand that you are punishing her for something that happened 10 minutes ago. That's a very outdated and IMO, cruel housetraining method. This may sound mean, but you can only punish yourself if you find an accident because you should have been watching her.
Jane is right. Crate training at this stage and keeping an eye on her is essential to her learning not to go in the house. If you catch her in the act, you need to grab her (even if she's still going) and tell her "no no no no" and take her outside, put her down and praise her.
When you take her outside and if you feel like she has to poop or will poop soon, stay out there with her until she goes. When I potty-trained my chocolate lab many many years ago, it was winter in Chicago. He would stare up at me with these sad "let's go in the house" eyes but I was steadfast and we didn't go in until be did both kinds. She will get it, just stick with it and keep being dilligent. It will be difficult and there will be a lot of accidents along the way, but you can do it!
Bevy's suggestion about the potty command is the best. Those commands do come in handy and hopefully she will learn it quickly.
It takes 1 year to fully potty train a puppy. At 5 months this is normal. It's extremely frustrating, I was losing my mind right about the same time lol.
Don't rub the nose in it, it doesn't teach them anything, you have to correct it during the act with a sharp " no".
Or if it's recent, I would bring my boy to the spot and a no.
You immediately bring them outside, and play the waiting game. Once they give anything, tons of praise/treats " good potty!"
You may not be able to wait long enough every time if she's already emptied herself.
But it will teach her " outside is were we do this and I get love!"
Limit your vocabulary during too. Correct, take outside say " go potty" sit/stad back and wait, only correcting if you need to for other behavior. Praise the potty.
Look for signs, sniffing, expanded bum, whining, pacing. Take her out no more then 10 minutes after she eats and drinks. Keep a close eye at all time. If she doesn't go in her crate, keep her in there for half hour to an hour and then take her outside immediately. Bring coffee or something to drink, it might take a while.
This is what we did, and I promise it will slow down and it will end!
Right now, I have a new puppy and going through the housetraining experience again is no fun lol! Like everyone is saying, you need to be taking her out ever 1 1/2 hrs to 2 hrs and wait until she does #1 or #2 and praise like crazy! Put a "go Potty" command in there while you're at it. Makes it so much easier when you are in a hurry and need them to relieve themselves fast. It isn't fun doing this at 1 or 3 in the morning, but over time they get the point.
So far Fences has only pooped once inside the house and hasn't peed. I was right there watching it as it happened but figured I'd give her this one. I didn't scold her, I just cleaned it up and took her outside and waited until she had to potty again. Also, if I cannot watch her, I put her in a crate. Thankfully she has taken a liking to it right away and will even go in it on her own to nap. Also, make a feeding schedule if your doggy isn't on one already. It really cuts out the guess work on whether they need to go or not. Once you have her on one, you start catching on as to when they need to potty.
Don't give up, you just have to be consistent in everything that you do when it comes to your dog. They are super smart and will understand what it is that you want once you are diligent in the training.
Read the FAQ linked at the top of the site with regards to housebreaking. I promise you that your worries are normal for someone who is unused to training a pup in this matter. Your biggest mistake, or oversight, is that you are giving her the run of the house before she's fully trained. The motto on this site is "Too much freedom, too soon". :-)
Do NOT put her nose in it. That's definitely not going to do anything. Remember that dogs have a VERY VERY VERY short memory. If you don't INSTANTLY catch them, they forget what they did and why they're being scolded. Even if you instantly catch her, rubbing her nose in her own filth only humiliates her and makes her dislike you. I also agree she has too much freedom. I had Butters attached to me by leash when he was that young. He also was never allowed to be in any room alone. He was also crated or in his x-pen when I could not watch his every move.
First, don't put her nose in it. A dog doesn't remember what they did wrong unless you actually catch her in the act. All you are teaching her is that it's bad to go to the bathroom, and that it makes you mad to see it. She'll start hiding from you to go then.
It took me a good year to get Seanna totally potty trained. Some dogs just take longer. Keep her in a puppy pen where you can see her at all times, and take her out every hour or two. Especially after waking, drinking, or playing. When she starts to soil, startle her with some noise or command, and take her outside immediately. I know it's a pain, but you MUST stay out until she pees and poops--then praise as if you just won the lottery. Give her a treat. She may not poop every time, but you'll learn her schedule. Eventually just pin her in a room, and do the same. Gradually (very gradually) work her up to the whole house. This way she learns little by little to not potty in the house.
My puppy is getting close to 5 months and still having some accidents, but in the last few days it seems to suddenly be clicking! She is standing by the door to go outside and has only had about one accident a day. Before that it really seemed like she wasn't getting it. I think you just need to be consistent about watching her, getting her out, and she will get it! It's tough to be patient but she will appreciate it if you are :-)
Thanks so much to those of you that were helpful!! Since I posted this a little over two weeks ago, my corgi has only had two accidents!! I'm very encouraged by this. I will share what worked for me in hopes to help others struggling with the problem. The advice I took from this thread and put into place was taking away her freedom by making sure that she was always in the same room that I was in, and rewarding her with treats when she does her business outside. Every time she peed or pooped outside I praised her and gave her a treat. It was generally easy for me to get her to pee right away--pooping was the problem! So I started taking her on a short walk (about 5 minutes) every time I took her outside. I understand that taking a walk might seem tedious for some people and annoying to have to do every time you go outside, but a 5 minute walk sure beats spending 10-15 minutes outside waiting....and waiting....and waiting....while nothing happens. I think the physical activity helps get things moving, if you know what I mean. Also, she's now slowly getting to the point where she either doesn't need the walk or if we do do a walk, it's only 2-3 minutes. She also starts whining when she needs to go outside, which is so helpful!