changes in behavior after neutering your male corgi? - MyCorgi.com2024-03-29T07:36:26Zhttp://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/changes-in-behavior-after-neutering-your-male-corgi?xg_source=activity&id=1150197%3ATopic%3A1492492&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI neutered my Kowboy. It was…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-28:1150197:Comment:14950532012-03-28T04:15:02.381ZSherrys pups Kali & Kowboyhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/SherryandMakayla
<p>I neutered my Kowboy. It was the best thing I did.. He started marking EVERYWHERE and even ME!!! Once he marked me I was DONE.. lol I got him in the next day.. Kowboy was 7 months old... Now at 9 months he has STOPPED marking everything even me! lol He has not changed still the same pup.. He dont lift his leg on anything he stands now to pee..Like when he was a puppy.. When he was not neutered the smell was so bad.. And his poor sister Kali that is fixed to.. He stopped riding her.. So…</p>
<p>I neutered my Kowboy. It was the best thing I did.. He started marking EVERYWHERE and even ME!!! Once he marked me I was DONE.. lol I got him in the next day.. Kowboy was 7 months old... Now at 9 months he has STOPPED marking everything even me! lol He has not changed still the same pup.. He dont lift his leg on anything he stands now to pee..Like when he was a puppy.. When he was not neutered the smell was so bad.. And his poor sister Kali that is fixed to.. He stopped riding her.. So she thanked me.. :) Even more I did it cause his right testicle never dropped..It can cause bad problems down the road..</p> Yeah I am interested in seein…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-28:1150197:Comment:14950482012-03-28T04:00:52.199ZMelissa and Franklin!http://mycorgi.com/profile/Melissa919
<p>Yeah I am interested in seeing the chemical neutering thing too. Could fix some of these issues. I TOTALLY agree that pediatric neuters are bad news, most vet's recommend neuters after around 6 months old but rescues seem to snip the minute they get the pup into a rescue no matter the age. From what I've read of the chemical neutering the inject zinc into the testes? Seems like that may cause some long term problems in the future. Weird that they have so many types of chemical neutering in…</p>
<p>Yeah I am interested in seeing the chemical neutering thing too. Could fix some of these issues. I TOTALLY agree that pediatric neuters are bad news, most vet's recommend neuters after around 6 months old but rescues seem to snip the minute they get the pup into a rescue no matter the age. From what I've read of the chemical neutering the inject zinc into the testes? Seems like that may cause some long term problems in the future. Weird that they have so many types of chemical neutering in large animals but so few in small animals. If nothing else seems like a great way to cut down on the pet over-population because maybe people would be more willing to sterilize if their dogs can keep their "boys". Not to mention it'd be so much cheaper.</p> Thanks everyone!tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-28:1150197:Comment:14951402012-03-28T02:28:31.652ZJas Staffahttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JasStaffa
<p>Thanks everyone!</p>
<p>Thanks everyone!</p> I would always recommend disc…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-28:1150197:Comment:14950352012-03-28T02:19:43.418ZJennifer Elliotthttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JenniferElliott
<p>I would always recommend discussing this with a licensed veterinarian rather than relying on Google searches. Anyone can find either side, pro or con, to an issue on the internet. Just because the world wide web says its so does not make it true. Ask a professional with schooling and a license.</p>
<p>I would always recommend discussing this with a licensed veterinarian rather than relying on Google searches. Anyone can find either side, pro or con, to an issue on the internet. Just because the world wide web says its so does not make it true. Ask a professional with schooling and a license.</p> "Spay/neuter before 5 ½ month…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-28:1150197:Comment:14948862012-03-28T02:11:49.643ZMegan Chttp://mycorgi.com/profile/MeganCadena
<p>"Spay/neuter before 5 ½ months of age is associated with a 70% increased aged-adjusted risk of hip<br></br>dysplasia compared to dogs spayed/neutered after 5 ½ months of age, though there were some indications<br></br>that the former may have had a lower severity manifestation of the disease42. The researchers suggest “it<br></br>is possible that the increase in bone length that results from early-age gonadectomy results in changes in<br></br>joint conformation, which could lead to a diagnosis of hip…</p>
<p>"Spay/neuter before 5 ½ months of age is associated with a 70% increased aged-adjusted risk of hip<br/>dysplasia compared to dogs spayed/neutered after 5 ½ months of age, though there were some indications<br/>that the former may have had a lower severity manifestation of the disease42. The researchers suggest “it<br/>is possible that the increase in bone length that results from early-age gonadectomy results in changes in<br/>joint conformation, which could lead to a diagnosis of hip dysplasia.”</p>
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<p>Owing to changes in metabolism, spay/neuter dogs are more likely to be overweight or obese than intact<br/>dogs. One study found a two fold increased risk of obesity in spayed females compared to intact females30.<br/>Another study found that spay/neuter dogs were 1.6 (females) or 3.0 (males) times more likely to be obese<br/>than intact dogs, and 1.2 (females) or 1.5 (males) times more likely to be overweight than intact dogs31.</p>
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<p>Obesity and hip dysplasia are two common problems in Corgi's. And both have significantly higher incidences in pediatric neuters. Also (and I apologize for not having the citation for this at hand) Neutered dogs also show increased aggression and noise phobias. I am really interested to see the long-term effect of chemical neutering. Since it cuts down on testosterone by around 50% is that enough to provide the benefits that hormones provide while mitigating some of the negative behavioral aspects.</p> as long as i dont have to wor…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-27:1150197:Comment:14947172012-03-27T23:03:38.652ZLloyd & Elisabeth (Kobi)http://mycorgi.com/profile/LloydReyes
<p>as long as i dont have to worry about him spraying in public away from home his boys are gone!<br/><br/><br/>I had to deal w/ my un-fixed wiener dog marking everything that was new too him. Never again.</p>
<p>It was also hard to take him out when i moved to an apartment from a home. He wouldnt just pee it all out, instead do it little by little. Bah</p>
<p>as long as i dont have to worry about him spraying in public away from home his boys are gone!<br/><br/><br/>I had to deal w/ my un-fixed wiener dog marking everything that was new too him. Never again.</p>
<p>It was also hard to take him out when i moved to an apartment from a home. He wouldnt just pee it all out, instead do it little by little. Bah</p> I am a vet tech at a spay neu…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-27:1150197:Comment:14948182012-03-27T22:51:00.515ZJennifer Elliotthttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JenniferElliott
<p>I am a vet tech at a spay neuter clinic where we do anywhere from 10-25 surgeries a day. Neutering won't change the essence and personality of your pup. What it will do is eliminate any risk of testicular cancer, reduce the risk of prostate cancer or problems, eliminate the testosterone that can cause the 'king of the hill' mentality that leads to aggresion, fighting, marking ect. Younger pups will recover faster and catches them before marking becomes a behavior. There is no down side to…</p>
<p>I am a vet tech at a spay neuter clinic where we do anywhere from 10-25 surgeries a day. Neutering won't change the essence and personality of your pup. What it will do is eliminate any risk of testicular cancer, reduce the risk of prostate cancer or problems, eliminate the testosterone that can cause the 'king of the hill' mentality that leads to aggresion, fighting, marking ect. Younger pups will recover faster and catches them before marking becomes a behavior. There is no down side to neutering a healthy pup. I just neutered my 12 week old corgi 4 days ago and he is doing fantastic!!!!!</p> Here are a few excerpts from…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-27:1150197:Comment:14948412012-03-27T20:56:25.662ZMelissa and Franklin!http://mycorgi.com/profile/Melissa919
<p align="left">Here are a few excerpts from the actual text of the article:</p>
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<p align="left">Given an incidence of prostate cancer in dogs of less than 0.6% from necropsy studies, <font face="Helvetica" size="2"><font face="Helvetica" size="2">it is difficult to see</font></font> that the risk of prostate cancer should factor heavily into most neutering decisions.</p>
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<p>Testicular tumors are not uncommon in older intact dogs, with a reported…</p>
<p align="left">Here are a few excerpts from the actual text of the article:</p>
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<p align="left">Given an incidence of prostate cancer in dogs of less than 0.6% from necropsy studies, <font size="2" face="Helvetica"><font size="2" face="Helvetica">it is difficult to see</font></font> that the risk of prostate cancer should factor heavily into most neutering decisions.</p>
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<p>Testicular tumors are not uncommon in older intact dogs, with a reported incidence of 7%</p>
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<p>The risk of osteosarcoma increases with increasing breed size and especially height</p>
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<p align="left">Urinary tract cancers: These tumors are nearly always</p>
<p align="left">malignant, but are infrequent, accounting for less than 1% of canine tumors. So this risk is unlikely to weigh heavily on spay/neuter decisions. Airedales, Beagles, and Scottish Terriers are at elevated risk for urinary tract cancer while German Shepherds have a lower than average risk</p>
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<p align="left">In breeds where hermangiosarcoma is an important cause of death, the increased risk associated with</p>
<p>spay/neuter is likely one that should factor into decisions on whether or when to sterilize a dog.</p>
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<p align="left">"The incidence of benign prostatic hypertrophy (BPH, enlarged prostate) increases with age in intact male</p>
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<p>In my opinion, while some risks of cancers are higher, the actual incidence of those cancers to begin with are so low that this shouldn't play a role in your decision to neuter unless you own a breed that is prone to that type of cancer (ie rotweillers and osteosarcoma or german shepherds and hemangiosarcomas). Since corgis are not prone to any of these types of cancers, the cancer risk shouldn't be a deciding factor by any means. However, the risk of testicular cancer is 7%, no the animals won't die but they will get cancer and have to be treated for cancer. The risk of non-cancerous prostate problems is 80%!</p>
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<p>So if you take out the health benefit argument all together, since in the long run the risks of many of these problems is so low to begin with (except hypothyroid), then you can just look at the behavioral improvements, which will most certainly improve with neuter. In the end its an individual decision, but I think the health argument can't really be used as a pro or a con at this point since there seem to be positives and negatives on each side and we as owners need to decide if we want to deal with the added responsibility of owning an intact male.</p>
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<p></p> I went through this with Coop…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-27:1150197:Comment:14945562012-03-27T14:45:01.219ZCharlottehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Charlotte
<p>I went through this with Cooper. He was approx 8 months when I adopted him. His previous owner had not neutered him. He came throught it with flying colors, and it has not affected his personality or his energy level. He has always been a cuddly dog, always active, and has always been very personable with other dogs and people. So no worries, and as listed in other posts, he doesn't need to be intact unless he is a proven champ or a true working dog that you plan on breeding. </p>
<p>I went through this with Cooper. He was approx 8 months when I adopted him. His previous owner had not neutered him. He came throught it with flying colors, and it has not affected his personality or his energy level. He has always been a cuddly dog, always active, and has always been very personable with other dogs and people. So no worries, and as listed in other posts, he doesn't need to be intact unless he is a proven champ or a true working dog that you plan on breeding. </p> A link to a paper with a lot…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-27:1150197:Comment:14944972012-03-27T14:36:23.639ZMegan Chttp://mycorgi.com/profile/MeganCadena
<p>A link to a paper with a lot of the spay/neuter research results:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf">http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf</a></p>
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<p>From the document:</p>
<p>On balance, it appears that no compelling case can be made for neutering most male dogs, especially <br></br>immature male dogs, in order to prevent future health problems. The number of health problems associated…</p>
<p>A link to a paper with a lot of the spay/neuter research results:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf">http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongTermHealthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf</a></p>
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<p>From the document:</p>
<p>On balance, it appears that no compelling case can be made for neutering most male dogs, especially <br/>immature male dogs, in order to prevent future health problems. The number of health problems associated <br/>with neutering may exceed the associated health benefits in most cases. <br/>On the positive side, neutering male dogs <br/>• eliminates the small risk (probably <1%) of dying from testicular cancer <br/>• reduces the risk of non-cancerous prostate disorders <br/>• reduces the risk of perianal fistulas <br/>• may possibly reduce the risk of diabetes (data inconclusive) <br/>On the negative side, neutering male dogs <br/>• if done before 1 year of age, significantly increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer); this is a <br/>common cancer in medium/large and larger breeds with a poor prognosis. <br/>• increases the risk of cardiac hemangiosarcoma by a factor of 1.6 <br/>• triples the risk of hypothyroidism <br/>• increases the risk of progressive geriatric cognitive impairment <br/>• triples the risk of obesity, a common health problem in dogs with many associated health problems <br/>• quadruples the small risk (<0.6%) of prostate cancer <br/>• doubles the small risk (<1%) of urinary tract cancers <br/>• increases the risk of orthopedic disorders <br/>• increases the risk of adverse reactions to vaccinations</p>