How do fluffies occur? - MyCorgi.com2024-03-28T16:58:16Zhttp://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/how-do-fluffies-occur?feed=yes&xn_auth=noI don't really care how they…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-07-10:1150197:Comment:4691642009-07-10T09:58:05.082ZRoxyhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/RoxyMalan
I don't really care how they occur........... ;-) I just know that all three the corgis I have experience with (including my current girl, Roxy) were fluffies and if and when I get the next one, it will be a fluffy again. The breeder I buy them from have recessive genes in her breeding pool and though she does not breed for fluffies, there is one in every 2 or 3 litters and she does not purposely try to breed the fluffy gene out either. Since she adheres to the defined breed standard, she can…
I don't really care how they occur........... ;-) I just know that all three the corgis I have experience with (including my current girl, Roxy) were fluffies and if and when I get the next one, it will be a fluffy again. The breeder I buy them from have recessive genes in her breeding pool and though she does not breed for fluffies, there is one in every 2 or 3 litters and she does not purposely try to breed the fluffy gene out either. Since she adheres to the defined breed standard, she can not use fluffies in her breeding program and she sells them to those of us who prefer fluffies. If we are responsible (and sensible) enough, we would not breed fluffies from two fluffy parents. To get the best traits of the breed, you need to have both genes present. For example, I have been told that a number of desirable traits are linked to the fluffy gene (posture, bravery, agility) so it is not necessarily a bad thing to keep the fluffy gene in the breeding pool. Keeping in mind that the breed is 1000 years plus old, and fluffies still occur, the originators of the breed must have known this as well........... Anne is confirming my specula…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-07-10:1150197:Comment:4690492009-07-10T05:23:16.918ZJohn Wolffhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JohnWolff92
Anne is confirming my speculation that breeders may have inadvertently selected FOR the Fluffy allele, choosing carriers because of their superior coats (Al & Gwynn may be carriers; they have Fluffy littermates and mink-like coats).<br />
Sometimes recessives can be selected for even if homozygous recessive is deleterious, even lethal. Sickle cell anemia may be like this (homozygous people get quite sick, but heterozygotes have some malaria resistance). Similarly, you can't breed-out the "Bully…
Anne is confirming my speculation that breeders may have inadvertently selected FOR the Fluffy allele, choosing carriers because of their superior coats (Al & Gwynn may be carriers; they have Fluffy littermates and mink-like coats).<br />
Sometimes recessives can be selected for even if homozygous recessive is deleterious, even lethal. Sickle cell anemia may be like this (homozygous people get quite sick, but heterozygotes have some malaria resistance). Similarly, you can't breed-out the "Bully Whippet" gene because although homozygotes are bullies (too big and slow), the heterozygous carriers make the fastest racers. But a well-combed fluffy may…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-07-10:1150197:Comment:4690472009-07-10T05:08:53.466ZJohn Wolffhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JohnWolff92
But a well-combed fluffy may have more power to control the human mind.
But a well-combed fluffy may have more power to control the human mind. no, you just need to ask to s…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-07-09:1150197:Comment:4687932009-07-09T20:20:30.182ZBeauty and the Beasthttp://mycorgi.com/profile/MariaAndShiro
no, you just need to ask to see the sire and the dam and to look at their health sertificates proving no genetic disorders. Also, if the breeder doesn't ask you personal questions and just gives you a "price chart" they definitely suck. But it is a completely different topic.
no, you just need to ask to see the sire and the dam and to look at their health sertificates proving no genetic disorders. Also, if the breeder doesn't ask you personal questions and just gives you a "price chart" they definitely suck. But it is a completely different topic. Agreedtag:mycorgi.com,2009-07-09:1150197:Comment:4687892009-07-09T20:16:22.024ZBeauty and the Beasthttp://mycorgi.com/profile/MariaAndShiro
Agreed
Agreed I have a Cardigan with incred…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-07-09:1150197:Comment:4687742009-07-09T19:32:57.778ZMissy Dhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/MissyDeYoung
I have a Cardigan with incredible blood lines that I could not have afforded if he were a fluff. He's my first corgi after years of collies and shelties - I actually decided on a corgi once I found out that a fluff was possible. I just put the word out through some regional breeders that I was looking specifically for one and they let me know as soon as one was available. The waiting list from this breeder is actually a couple of years (even for pet quality), so I got to bypass to the front of…
I have a Cardigan with incredible blood lines that I could not have afforded if he were a fluff. He's my first corgi after years of collies and shelties - I actually decided on a corgi once I found out that a fluff was possible. I just put the word out through some regional breeders that I was looking specifically for one and they let me know as soon as one was available. The waiting list from this breeder is actually a couple of years (even for pet quality), so I got to bypass to the front of the line for him. I really wanted a blue merle, so it was quite serendipitous. He may not be "showable", but he's already a rock star in obedience so I can get some fancy letters after his name instead of in front like the rest of his line.... ;)<br />
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One thing I've heard is that a higher chance of fluffs occur in a dam's first litter. When I approached Anne Bowes…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-06-21:1150197:Comment:4570862009-06-21T22:46:25.573ZNancy Geddeshttp://mycorgi.com/profile/NancyGeddes
When I approached Anne Bowes of Heronsway kennels about obtaining one of her puppies, I found that the only dog of hers that I could afford was either an adult or a fluffy. Anne and I went through the same process that she does for every corgi and nearly one year later I had a spectacular male red/white fluffy. At that time, I asked her how to explain this phenomenom to people who asked about my Linus. She said that yes, fluffies seem to inherit all the best traits of that particular mating…
When I approached Anne Bowes of Heronsway kennels about obtaining one of her puppies, I found that the only dog of hers that I could afford was either an adult or a fluffy. Anne and I went through the same process that she does for every corgi and nearly one year later I had a spectacular male red/white fluffy. At that time, I asked her how to explain this phenomenom to people who asked about my Linus. She said that yes, fluffies seem to inherit all the best traits of that particular mating (with the exception of the coat). Anne also explained that breeders do benefit from the fluff gene in that it enhances coats in normal coated corgis. The fluffy gene may have been introduced a long time ago when the Welsh were crossing their farm dog corgis with other herding dogs that were strong eyed (unlike the loose-eyed, upright herding corgi). The best way to obtain a fluffy is to contact reputable breeders and specifically request a fluffy...cuz fluff happens! And with the new gene mapping…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-06-21:1150197:Comment:4570722009-06-21T22:35:12.343ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
And with the new gene mapping, you will be able to not bother looking into litters where one or both parents are "fluff free." I have no idea how many breeders test for this, but I know our pup's father, along with the regular health certs, was "certified fluff-free factor." So if you are looking for a fluffy, you can just not spend time checking with any litters from such parents.
And with the new gene mapping, you will be able to not bother looking into litters where one or both parents are "fluff free." I have no idea how many breeders test for this, but I know our pup's father, along with the regular health certs, was "certified fluff-free factor." So if you are looking for a fluffy, you can just not spend time checking with any litters from such parents. "Fluffies are just as great a…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-06-21:1150197:Comment:4570672009-06-21T22:31:33.444ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
"Fluffies are just as great as regular corgis."<br />
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Hey, if you are talking about a lovable and smart and attractive pet, with that great Corgi personality, you are 100% correct.<br />
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However, a Corgi is MEANT to be a working cattle dog, even if few of them are used for that any more. Ever seen a field that cattle frequent? There is ALWAYS mud, even in high summer. I'm sure a cattle field in rainy Wales is even muddier. The wash-and-wear coat of a properly coated Corgi is infinitely superior to the…
"Fluffies are just as great as regular corgis."<br />
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Hey, if you are talking about a lovable and smart and attractive pet, with that great Corgi personality, you are 100% correct.<br />
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However, a Corgi is MEANT to be a working cattle dog, even if few of them are used for that any more. Ever seen a field that cattle frequent? There is ALWAYS mud, even in high summer. I'm sure a cattle field in rainy Wales is even muddier. The wash-and-wear coat of a properly coated Corgi is infinitely superior to the fluffy in terms of using the breed for its original intent.<br />
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Now, if we want to be like, say, the English Setter or Springer Spaniel show people, and breed a dog that is utterly impractical for its original purpose (bench Setters and Springers have way too much coat to be a useful field hunter), then sure, go ahead and intentionally breed fluffies. But if you want a dog that at least looks like it can still do the job its intended for, then I would breed to the standard and if you want fluffies, then pick one up from a breeder who has one by accident. Haha I'm sorry I think that i…tag:mycorgi.com,2009-06-21:1150197:Comment:4569782009-06-21T18:56:04.480ZMichellehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Michelle228
Haha I'm sorry I think that is ridiculous. A breed fault? Sure you can't show a fluffy but they are great dogs, saying that breeding fluffies is "not trying to better the breed" is stupid. Fluffies are just as great as regular corgis, I would know I own both kinds. I am actually considering trying to breed my fluffy corgi because they are beautiful dogs
Haha I'm sorry I think that is ridiculous. A breed fault? Sure you can't show a fluffy but they are great dogs, saying that breeding fluffies is "not trying to better the breed" is stupid. Fluffies are just as great as regular corgis, I would know I own both kinds. I am actually considering trying to breed my fluffy corgi because they are beautiful dogs