Leptospirosis in PA/Training/Crate Issues-Help pleasantly requested :) - MyCorgi.com2024-03-29T01:58:19Zhttp://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/leptospirosis-in-pa-training-crate-issues-help-pleasantly?feed=yes&xn_auth=noHere in PA, vet techs can giv…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-15:1150197:Comment:16214552012-09-15T00:10:44.432ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
<p>Here in PA, vet techs can give all shots except rabies, which must be given by a vet.</p>
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<p>My vet will allow you to go in to see a tech if you only need a shot. There is a $5 fee per dog for the tech visit (not $5 per shot, but per dog, so if each dog gets 2 shots you would be charged $5 total for each dog plus the price of the vaccines).</p>
<p>Here in PA, vet techs can give all shots except rabies, which must be given by a vet.</p>
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<p>My vet will allow you to go in to see a tech if you only need a shot. There is a $5 fee per dog for the tech visit (not $5 per shot, but per dog, so if each dog gets 2 shots you would be charged $5 total for each dog plus the price of the vaccines).</p> Wow! $70 for the vaccine!? I…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16214322012-09-14T21:02:56.058ZMelissa and Franklin!http://mycorgi.com/profile/Melissa919
<p>Wow! $70 for the vaccine!? I work at an emergency clinic so some of our prices tend to be a bit higher than other clinics and we charge $26 and if the pet has had an exam in the last year then no office visit needed.</p>
<p>Try looking into vaccine clinics or a local animal control on animal shelter. VPI (or VIP I can never remember lol) does vaccine clinics and you can look up online where they will be. Lepto does need to be boostered but it will only be 2 shots total, so 1 vaccine, then a…</p>
<p>Wow! $70 for the vaccine!? I work at an emergency clinic so some of our prices tend to be a bit higher than other clinics and we charge $26 and if the pet has had an exam in the last year then no office visit needed.</p>
<p>Try looking into vaccine clinics or a local animal control on animal shelter. VPI (or VIP I can never remember lol) does vaccine clinics and you can look up online where they will be. Lepto does need to be boostered but it will only be 2 shots total, so 1 vaccine, then a booster 3 to 4 weeks later and then its good for a year.</p>
<p>Also, your vet isn't giving me much faith. They should always provide you with an estimate for fees and a clear explination for why those fees are being charged. They should also never try to push you into doing stuff that you don't want to do without any clear reason for WHY they are recommending it. It may be worth looking around and trying out a different vet. Not all vets are created equal, but there are excellent vets out there who truly do have your pet's best interest in mind.</p> Scratch that. After digging…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16213112012-09-14T20:43:58.004ZJenny and Djangohttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JennyandDjango
<p>Scratch that. After digging deeper, all of them also require 2 boosters....soooo, add 2 office visits and 2 more lepto shot fees, and I'm looking at @ $200. Envious of your $10 deal....!!!! How can they do this? Just asked my vet to speak to the Dr. and see if a nurse might administer the shot and/or boosters because I was told by a friend that it lowers the office visit fee--again, none of which I was told at the vet. I am learning that dealing with vets is like dealing with mechanics. No…</p>
<p>Scratch that. After digging deeper, all of them also require 2 boosters....soooo, add 2 office visits and 2 more lepto shot fees, and I'm looking at @ $200. Envious of your $10 deal....!!!! How can they do this? Just asked my vet to speak to the Dr. and see if a nurse might administer the shot and/or boosters because I was told by a friend that it lowers the office visit fee--again, none of which I was told at the vet. I am learning that dealing with vets is like dealing with mechanics. No up front payment explainations, no real governing body and therefore no recourse for issues. Django better be extra good tonight!!! hahaha</p> I've done research in the are…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16211812012-09-14T19:45:36.574ZJenny and Djangohttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JennyandDjango
<p>I've done research in the area and one vet doesn't give lepto at all, one only includes it w/ distemper which he already has, one was closed, mine was actually $20, plus they were going to charge me an office visit fee on top of that! So, Banfield through PetSmart is $15, plus an office visit which I found a coupon for online. First visit free. But, my local PetSmart doesn't accept the coupons. The one that does is a little over half an hour away. Still worth it. Phew! It's a lot of work…</p>
<p>I've done research in the area and one vet doesn't give lepto at all, one only includes it w/ distemper which he already has, one was closed, mine was actually $20, plus they were going to charge me an office visit fee on top of that! So, Banfield through PetSmart is $15, plus an office visit which I found a coupon for online. First visit free. But, my local PetSmart doesn't accept the coupons. The one that does is a little over half an hour away. Still worth it. Phew! It's a lot of work to get a good deal with vaccinations... ;)</p> Oh my goodness, ours was $10!…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16211542012-09-14T17:11:59.799ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
<p>Oh my goodness, ours was $10!!! Lyme is around $25, but Lepto only $10....</p>
<p>Oh my goodness, ours was $10!!! Lyme is around $25, but Lepto only $10....</p> Wow thanks for the insight!!!…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16209902012-09-14T16:38:12.000ZJenny and Djangohttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JennyandDjango
<p>Wow thanks for the insight!!! Interesting that you mention Giardia. Django is 2 days from finishing medication because the week I brought him home he had that. Seemed completely normal otherwise, he just had blood in his stool. Poor guy. I'm going to call around for pricing for the Lepto shot. Definitely looks like we need it. My vet quoted me $70. Just seems a bit steep for something that may not last a full year, but, if that's what it is, so be it. Better that than adding vet bills,…</p>
<p>Wow thanks for the insight!!! Interesting that you mention Giardia. Django is 2 days from finishing medication because the week I brought him home he had that. Seemed completely normal otherwise, he just had blood in his stool. Poor guy. I'm going to call around for pricing for the Lepto shot. Definitely looks like we need it. My vet quoted me $70. Just seems a bit steep for something that may not last a full year, but, if that's what it is, so be it. Better that than adding vet bills, medication and possible human doctor bills into the mix! Thank you so much :)</p> Gotcha. Thanks again!!tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16210652012-09-14T16:34:26.067ZJenny and Djangohttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JennyandDjango
<p>Gotcha. Thanks again!!</p>
<p>Gotcha. Thanks again!!</p> All dogs used to get Leptospi…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16209862012-09-14T16:09:01.591ZMelissa and Franklin!http://mycorgi.com/profile/Melissa919
<p>All dogs used to get Leptospirosis in the combo vaccination. It was listed as the DHLPP, when the company first split the vaccines (DHPP and Lepto separate) the adjuvant used (the liquid portion of the vaccine that helps stimulate an immune response) caused a lot of reactions. The vaccine has now been separate for several years and they have changed the adjuvant used. Dogs are no more likely now to have a vaccine reaction to the lepto vaccine as they are to any other. In fact I see more…</p>
<p>All dogs used to get Leptospirosis in the combo vaccination. It was listed as the DHLPP, when the company first split the vaccines (DHPP and Lepto separate) the adjuvant used (the liquid portion of the vaccine that helps stimulate an immune response) caused a lot of reactions. The vaccine has now been separate for several years and they have changed the adjuvant used. Dogs are no more likely now to have a vaccine reaction to the lepto vaccine as they are to any other. In fact I see more reactions to the DHPP vaccine and the injectable bordetella vaccine than I do to lepto.</p>
<p>Lepto is transmitted in the urine of wildlife, primarily squirrels and oppossums and rats. What this means is, if you have a backyard, your dog is exposed in areas that lepto is an issue. Lepto can be fatal and it is a human health risk. I have seen young healthy dogs die of the disease and because it is contagious to humans hospitalization for the disease requires strict isolation standards which means on top of your already large 5-7 day hospital stay, your dog will be completely isolated with limited human contact, and there will generally be a hefty isolation fee on top of the other fees. To me it is not worth the risk. If you read on the internet you will always read all the bad bad bad, nobody bothers to write a post about how their dog got the lepto vaccine and nothing happened. If your vet recommends it (and you aren't going to a corporate hospital like Banfield or VCA) I would do it. I mention the corporate hospitals because they will recommend every vaccine known to man even if it doesn't do anything and your pet has no exposure (i.e. the giardia vaccine or influenza vaccine in western states).</p>
<p>I also have to add that lepto is on the rise. There is so much misinformation out there on the internet and many small dog "breeders" are telling buyers not to vaccinate for lepto that now the disease is actually becoming much more frequent than it used to be. Its a common trend we see in vet medicine and unfortunately results in our pets suffering due to our uninformed decisions. If you are unsure, talk to other vets in the area, a great resource is a veterinary teaching hospital. They will (or won't) recommend vaccines based on actual risk. For example, at this point and time UC Davis does not recommend giving the rattlesnake vaccine due to high risk of reaction and poor proven effect, however they do recommend lepto because they frequently treat for the disease in my area.</p> I'm an hour or two from you,…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16212462012-09-14T15:47:43.229ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
<p>I'm an hour or two from you, so probably you would not want to drive this far for training. :-)</p>
<p>I'm an hour or two from you, so probably you would not want to drive this far for training. :-)</p> Thank you so much Beth! I was…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-09-14:1150197:Comment:16209822012-09-14T15:36:41.114ZJenny and Djangohttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JennyandDjango
<p>Thank you so much Beth! I was leaning toward the lepto shot because of those very reasons. So glad to hear that you didn't experience any negative reactions. 36" it is. Any trainer referrals? :)</p>
<p>Thank you so much Beth! I was leaning toward the lepto shot because of those very reasons. So glad to hear that you didn't experience any negative reactions. 36" it is. Any trainer referrals? :)</p>