Martingale collars? Yea or nay? - MyCorgi.com2024-03-29T10:03:07Zhttp://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/martingale-collars-yea-or-nay?commentId=1150197%3AComment%3A1661107&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI never thought of that! I r…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-11-29:1150197:Comment:16611072012-11-29T05:25:05.735ZJohn Wolffhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JohnWolff92
<p>I never thought of that! I removed the chain and metal O-ring on our martingales to save weight and noise (sacrificing the chain-rattle audible cue), replacing it with perlon kernmantle rope. Perhaps this makes it less prone to dangle and trap a paw. This has never happened... yet. If your dog can back out of it, it may be too wide. Ours have never been able to back out. The collars slip snugly but easily over the head. They never wear the collars indoors. When I got the size right,…</p>
<p>I never thought of that! I removed the chain and metal O-ring on our martingales to save weight and noise (sacrificing the chain-rattle audible cue), replacing it with perlon kernmantle rope. Perhaps this makes it less prone to dangle and trap a paw. This has never happened... yet. If your dog can back out of it, it may be too wide. Ours have never been able to back out. The collars slip snugly but easily over the head. They never wear the collars indoors. When I got the size right, I also removed the adjustment buckles and stitched it down. Final adjustments are made by changing the length of the loop with the knot. Use a fisherman's knot or water knot (see FAQ link below). </p>
<p>NOTE: I just replaced Gwynnie's nylon kernmantle rope; the sheath had worn through after 8-9 years. Inspect your gear.</p>
<p><a href="http://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/some-info-about-collars" target="_self">http://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/some-info-about-collars</a></p> I love martingales:)tag:mycorgi.com,2012-11-29:1150197:Comment:16608372012-11-29T00:15:01.706ZJane Christensenhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JaneChristensen
<p><em>I love martingales:)</em></p>
<p><em>I love martingales:)</em></p> I couldn't get one of those e…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-11-28:1150197:Comment:16604092012-11-28T20:23:23.122ZBrooke Busteedhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/BrookeBusteed
<p>I couldn't get one of those easy walks to fit right and my trainer seems to think they wont work for our short legged friends?</p>
<p>I couldn't get one of those easy walks to fit right and my trainer seems to think they wont work for our short legged friends?</p> Jackie is going through EXACT…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-11-28:1150197:Comment:16604842012-11-28T20:21:47.163ZBrooke Busteedhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/BrookeBusteed
<p>Jackie is going through EXACTLY what I am with Billy, my trainer had me buy the martingale so that I can keep his focus on the walk and not every single possible smell/distraction in the way and I fear he will be sad if i use it, she had me try the no pull that the dog above is wearing but it didnt seem to do ANYTHING for the pulling. Walks are NOT enjoyable for us because I feel the whole time i am dragging him (not literally). I guess I am going to have to remember to always bring treats…</p>
<p>Jackie is going through EXACTLY what I am with Billy, my trainer had me buy the martingale so that I can keep his focus on the walk and not every single possible smell/distraction in the way and I fear he will be sad if i use it, she had me try the no pull that the dog above is wearing but it didnt seem to do ANYTHING for the pulling. Walks are NOT enjoyable for us because I feel the whole time i am dragging him (not literally). I guess I am going to have to remember to always bring treats on walks but this dog is gonna be fat by the time he learns.... He will do ANYTHING for treats but without them he laughs in my face.</p> martingales ARE NOT safe to l…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-09-20:1150197:Comment:13169422011-09-20T22:14:36.538ZJudi, Dawn, Soffie & Griffynhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Judi
martingales ARE NOT safe to leave on a dog!! sorry....... no disrespect meant to you Anna. then can get caught on anything. and my soffie caught her front paw in the dangling loop when she was very young. btw .... soffie, who is now almost 6 years old, knows exactly how to slip out of a martingale!! we still use this collar on a "fun" walk ... but i NEVER let her get behind me! that's when she can slip out!!
martingales ARE NOT safe to leave on a dog!! sorry....... no disrespect meant to you Anna. then can get caught on anything. and my soffie caught her front paw in the dangling loop when she was very young. btw .... soffie, who is now almost 6 years old, knows exactly how to slip out of a martingale!! we still use this collar on a "fun" walk ... but i NEVER let her get behind me! that's when she can slip out!! For what it's worth, Ragnar i…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-09-17:1150197:Comment:13100482011-09-17T16:01:50.120ZAber, Ragnar and Kelsohttp://mycorgi.com/profile/ShannonRogers
For what it's worth, Ragnar is a distracted pulling machine when we go for walks--he wants to see everything NOW! and so he starts wheezing and coughing very early in and doesn't stop for a while after we return. I got him a Halti harness, since I didn't want any pull on his neck, but everyone said a regular harness just gives the dog all of the control. He is a different angelic dog on that harness. He doesn't pull, he walks like he actually paid attention to all of the training I tried to…
For what it's worth, Ragnar is a distracted pulling machine when we go for walks--he wants to see everything NOW! and so he starts wheezing and coughing very early in and doesn't stop for a while after we return. I got him a Halti harness, since I didn't want any pull on his neck, but everyone said a regular harness just gives the dog all of the control. He is a different angelic dog on that harness. He doesn't pull, he walks like he actually paid attention to all of the training I tried to give him when he was little, and he doesn't really squeal at people or other dogs now. It's a miracle harness :) Here's what I'd do: get eith…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-09-16:1150197:Comment:13081572011-09-16T16:06:39.062ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
<p>Here's what I'd do: get either a ten-foot leash or an extenda-leash (the kind with the ribbon, not the cord) and when you take her out, let her wander. Let her sniff. Let her be distracted. It's very important for her development for her to explore. </p>
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<p>Forget about stopping whenever she pulls; you (and she) will come to see walks as a chore rather than something fun.</p>
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<p>Carry a standard-length leash with you. AFTER she's tired herself out some and AFTER she's…</p>
<p>Here's what I'd do: get either a ten-foot leash or an extenda-leash (the kind with the ribbon, not the cord) and when you take her out, let her wander. Let her sniff. Let her be distracted. It's very important for her development for her to explore. </p>
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<p>Forget about stopping whenever she pulls; you (and she) will come to see walks as a chore rather than something fun.</p>
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<p>Carry a standard-length leash with you. AFTER she's tired herself out some and AFTER she's had time to sniff and play and you've walked a nice long way, then clip the regular leash on. She'll learn the short leash means business. THEN practice having her walk nicely. Betcha she behaves better after she's had some time to play around, and I'll also bet that you come to enjoy walks a lot more. </p>
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<p>If she's already confused by months of mixed-messages on-leash, teach her to heel off-leash first inside, then clip the leash on her (still inside) and have her heel while she drags it behind her, and only then pick up the leash. Once you have that down, take her to a fenced, quiet area and do the same from step 1 (no leash, then dragging leash, then you carrying leash). I had to do this with Jack because he was prone to wandering off and so I needed to leash him up for potty breaks and socialization when he was still way too little to demand nice walking. By the time he was around 4 months old and old enough to start, he already had bad habits (and so did I).</p>
<p><br/>Come to think of the leash as a safety line so she can't run off, not as the tool that keeps her from pulling. I give mine verbal corrections, not leash corrections, if I've put them on heel and they forge ahead. </p>
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<p>If you would like more detailed info, feel free to shoot me a private message. You'll need to send a friend request first. Good luck!</p> See the FAQ. I posted photos…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-09-16:1150197:Comment:13073222011-09-16T06:29:52.750ZJohn Wolffhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JohnWolff92
<p>See the FAQ. I posted photos of my modified Martingales. I removed the chain and steel ring to save weight and noise -- although the rattle of the chain is supposed to be an auditory cue that the leash/collar is tightening. I like the way they slip on/off easily. Once I got the size established, I removed all adjustment buckles, stitched it down permanently. Only hardware is 2 stainless steel D rings.</p>
<p>The dog has to carry it everywhere, so I think it's a good idea to eliminate all…</p>
<p>See the FAQ. I posted photos of my modified Martingales. I removed the chain and steel ring to save weight and noise -- although the rattle of the chain is supposed to be an auditory cue that the leash/collar is tightening. I like the way they slip on/off easily. Once I got the size established, I removed all adjustment buckles, stitched it down permanently. Only hardware is 2 stainless steel D rings.</p>
<p>The dog has to carry it everywhere, so I think it's a good idea to eliminate all unnecessary weight. Most collars are much more massive than necessary.</p>
<p>I replaced the chain with perlon -- high-quality nylon kernmantle rope -- fisherman's knot -- check regularly for wear.</p> I do think part of it is that…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-09-16:1150197:Comment:13078362011-09-16T02:22:19.808ZJackie (Lilu & Loki)http://mycorgi.com/profile/JackieKoch
<p>I do think part of it is that Lilu is still at a stage where she's easily distracted. She's generally a good dog, and I have taken her to some training classes before, so she knows how to sit and lay down. She'll definitely do those at home, especially if there's a treat involved. She knows what "crate" means and always jumps up in the car on her own when I open the door for her. Out in the world, though... or if there's not a treat in it for her, she's a little less consistent. I've been…</p>
<p>I do think part of it is that Lilu is still at a stage where she's easily distracted. She's generally a good dog, and I have taken her to some training classes before, so she knows how to sit and lay down. She'll definitely do those at home, especially if there's a treat involved. She knows what "crate" means and always jumps up in the car on her own when I open the door for her. Out in the world, though... or if there's not a treat in it for her, she's a little less consistent. I've been trying to do reinforcement with her on the leash, like telling her "good girl" if she walks with slack and stopping when she starts to pull. If she keeps pulling, I try to make her sit, but sometimes I really have to get on her before she'll actually do it. I don't know if she's just being stubborn or if it's just because she's clever enough to say "Well what's in it for me?" (ie: a treat).</p>
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<p>I also know it's partly my fault because I don't think I've done enough specific leash training sessions with her. And I have to admit I haven't really used treats in that regard out on walks. I need to find the time and patience to work on it more with her. I'm just hoping the harness will help with that reinforcement though because sometimes I do get frustrated when it seems like she just won't stop pulling and we end up traveling about a foot ever 5 minutes because I keep stopping.</p>
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<p>She definitely wants to stay near us though, at least. When I take her to the dog park, sometimes she runs off and does her own thing, but if I step outside the gate (to get something from the car or make a call) she goes over to the gate and wants to come with me. We have even let her off leash before (though I know we probably shouldn't) when we've gone for walks in back woods and there wasn't anyone else around.... she kind of goes off a little but usually stays within sight and doesn't just wonder off completely. She even chased a squirrel into the bushes once, but as soon as she lost sight of it and we called her back she came back to us. I'm hoping that's at least a good sign or start... but I guess the leash just isn't long enough for her and she wants to explore.</p> Hi Beth, I meant to hit reply…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-09-16:1150197:Comment:13075452011-09-16T01:50:30.585ZDi, Pazu, and Mochi the Bunnyhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/DiPazuandMochitheBunny
<p>Hi Beth, I meant to hit reply to Jackie's post about her pup being 10 1/2 months old, not yours.</p>
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<p>I agree with you that pups mature at different rates. Pazu has always been a pretty mellow laidback, sorta aloof pup. He was not very fond of high energy pups, but every once in a while he'd find a few medium energy ones and he'd go up on his own and play and I'd let him. When I first met him at the breeders', he sat by my feet and looked up at me while the other pups were…</p>
<p>Hi Beth, I meant to hit reply to Jackie's post about her pup being 10 1/2 months old, not yours.</p>
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<p>I agree with you that pups mature at different rates. Pazu has always been a pretty mellow laidback, sorta aloof pup. He was not very fond of high energy pups, but every once in a while he'd find a few medium energy ones and he'd go up on his own and play and I'd let him. When I first met him at the breeders', he sat by my feet and looked up at me while the other pups were jumping up and crawling over me. Not a typical Corgi. </p>