Need to stop the barking - ASAP! Suggestions? - MyCorgi.com2024-03-29T15:28:09Zhttp://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/need-to-stop-the-barking-asap-suggestions?commentId=1150197%3AComment%3A1398670&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAlternatively, you could just…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-10:1150197:Comment:14002012011-12-10T03:13:05.734ZDenise Hawkinshttp://mycorgi.com/profile/DeniseHawkins
<p>Alternatively, you could just wire the door knocker up to the electricity mains, give the kid a gift he would not get over in a hurry!!!</p>
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<p>Am only joking before you all report me lol x</p>
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<p>Alternatively, you could just wire the door knocker up to the electricity mains, give the kid a gift he would not get over in a hurry!!!</p>
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<p>Am only joking before you all report me lol x</p>
<p></p> I agree dogs can be trained t…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13985132011-12-08T16:56:05.299ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
<p>I agree dogs can be trained to do a lot, but barking can be hard to suppress. There is a bit of a difference between a friendly visitor knocking before being allowed in, and someone running up, pounding, and running away. I could probably work with my female to stop it, but my male sees protecting his home as his most important job in life and it can be very hard to get him to even notice treats when he's on his game.</p>
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<p>Eliminating self-rewarding behavior like barking also…</p>
<p>I agree dogs can be trained to do a lot, but barking can be hard to suppress. There is a bit of a difference between a friendly visitor knocking before being allowed in, and someone running up, pounding, and running away. I could probably work with my female to stop it, but my male sees protecting his home as his most important job in life and it can be very hard to get him to even notice treats when he's on his game.</p>
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<p>Eliminating self-rewarding behavior like barking also requires very consistent and powerful rewards to counter-condition the dog. So every time you are not home and the dog barks, the training backslides.</p>
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<p>I'm not saying it's not worth a try: it is. I AM saying that plenty of very good trainers are not able to eliminate warning barking in dogs. Even using clicker training. </p> I agree with Kari. They can…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13985102011-12-08T16:35:20.750ZSandy Stickneyhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/SandyStickney
<p>I agree with Kari. They can be trained. If I can do it, <em>anyone</em> can do it! Especially if you have two people to do it (a trainer and a knocker). Like I mentioned before, they may still give a small bark, but as soon as I correct them, they come running back to me. If I put in a little more time & effort (I am a lazy trainer, unfortunately), I know I could get them to ignore the door altogether. You may or may not be able to get the kid's parents on board with you.</p>
<p>I agree with Kari. They can be trained. If I can do it, <em>anyone</em> can do it! Especially if you have two people to do it (a trainer and a knocker). Like I mentioned before, they may still give a small bark, but as soon as I correct them, they come running back to me. If I put in a little more time & effort (I am a lazy trainer, unfortunately), I know I could get them to ignore the door altogether. You may or may not be able to get the kid's parents on board with you.</p> You are fighting an uphill ba…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13987642011-12-08T16:34:49.565ZAnna Morellihttp://mycorgi.com/profile/AnnaMorelli
<p>You are fighting an uphill battle and that would be my very last resort. The old saying "You get more flies with honey than with vinegar" may apply here. First I would point out to you that it's quite normal for kids to play pranks of the sort you describe, they find them funny and don't mean or see any real harm in that. This does not make them "nasty". If you can soften your view of the child and realize the child is not a partner of the "anti-dog new management" you will be ahead of the…</p>
<p>You are fighting an uphill battle and that would be my very last resort. The old saying "You get more flies with honey than with vinegar" may apply here. First I would point out to you that it's quite normal for kids to play pranks of the sort you describe, they find them funny and don't mean or see any real harm in that. This does not make them "nasty". If you can soften your view of the child and realize the child is not a partner of the "anti-dog new management" you will be ahead of the game. Try to soften your view of the management as well. It's my experience that management, especially new people in management, feel that RULES are what everybody needs, and they tend to make lots of them..... some of which backfire, as in this situation, as not all situations fit the intended purpose of the rule. There intentions may be good and if you show concern for the reasons behind the rule, they will be more responsive to you as well.</p>
<p>Here is what I would try. I would try to enlist the help of the mother or caregiver and see if they will bring the child to your home or allow the child to come over and make friends with the dogs, and make sure I had some yummy thing to offer (after asking mom what the child can have - some kids have dietary restrictions - and this question will show the mom that your concern and goodwill extends to her child as well as to your dogs.)</p>
<p>If they come and all goes well, I would ask the child not to run and knock on the door because the dogs need to be very quiet or the manager will not allow them to stay and that there are people who will complain if they hear the dogs bark. Elicit the child's help and his interest in the dogs in an age appropriate way. Realize that you are asking him to give up something that's been a lot of fun for him.... Maybe show off a trick, or have him give a treat and a belly rub. Tell him he's welcome to come visit the dogs, if it's OK with his mom and see how you can set that up in a clear way. If he's old enough you may offer him a dollar to come help you brush them. Once you start to think in these terms, you will see many new possibilities. Children are our future and it's best if they like and learn about dogs while they are young, otherwise they may grow up to become anti-dog management.... Goog luck!</p> This is exactly why I'm such…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13987622011-12-08T16:25:25.968ZYuki & Elliehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Jennifer970
<p>This is exactly why I'm such a fan of clicker training. It's a tried and true method to get an animal (even people!) to do what you want them to. I'm really excited to start clicker training with my two in another month or so. :)</p>
<p>This is exactly why I'm such a fan of clicker training. It's a tried and true method to get an animal (even people!) to do what you want them to. I'm really excited to start clicker training with my two in another month or so. :)</p> Its very kind of you to refra…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13987582011-12-08T16:18:39.790ZSnickmomhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Snickmom
<p>Its very kind of you to refrain from putting shock collars on the kids. If you can be home during the time of day the kids come by you could keep your dogs tethered near you and calm them when they hear the door. Hopefully you have explained the problem with the kids to the management. and explain what you are doing to solve the problem, asking for time to retrain them not to bark at the door (a near impossible task). (and ask if the parrents can be served an infraction also) Another idea is…</p>
<p>Its very kind of you to refrain from putting shock collars on the kids. If you can be home during the time of day the kids come by you could keep your dogs tethered near you and calm them when they hear the door. Hopefully you have explained the problem with the kids to the management. and explain what you are doing to solve the problem, asking for time to retrain them not to bark at the door (a near impossible task). (and ask if the parrents can be served an infraction also) Another idea is to get the kids on your side. Try to have to dogs in the hall when they come by, introduce them to one another, have the kids give the dogs treats and maybe set up a play date. If the kids see that they could get a lot of positive fun from the dogs they may be persuaded to stop the knocking, and the dogs would benefit from having high energy kids to play with.</p> You can train your dogs not t…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13985012011-12-08T16:05:14.376ZKari & Quinhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/KariSkinner
<p>You can train your dogs not to bark when someone knocks on the door!!! Please this is the best solution to the problem. Corgis are very smart and will get it quickly. Clicker training! Watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/kikopup#p/u/138/Jp_l9C1yT1g">http://www.youtube.com/user/kikopup#p/u/138/Jp_l9C1yT1g</a> Emily is an excellent trainer watch as many of her videos as you can. The easiest thing is to control what you can, someone else's child is their problem and they will have…</p>
<p>You can train your dogs not to bark when someone knocks on the door!!! Please this is the best solution to the problem. Corgis are very smart and will get it quickly. Clicker training! Watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/kikopup#p/u/138/Jp_l9C1yT1g">http://www.youtube.com/user/kikopup#p/u/138/Jp_l9C1yT1g</a> Emily is an excellent trainer watch as many of her videos as you can. The easiest thing is to control what you can, someone else's child is their problem and they will have to deal with that when he is 15:( I use these videos with Quin and I LOVE them. I wish everyone could see them she is so much better than Ceaser, her dogs would do any thing she asks.</p>
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<p> </p> Maybe have something that you…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13984972011-12-08T15:37:30.320ZJane Christensenhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JaneChristensen
<p>Maybe have something that you could record the knock????</p>
<p>Maybe have something that you could record the knock????</p> I had a very similar situatio…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13987532011-12-08T15:26:50.078ZMichellehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Michelle9
<p>I had a very similar situation with two children in my neighborhood that were being home schooled. I happened to be at home one day when my two dogs went absolutely crazy outside, this was when we had our large dogs an aussie and bulldog chow mix. I was so sick of hearing it that I stepped out of my back door and low and behold in a very large tree were those kids throwing sticks and rocks at my dogs. I proptly yelled at them to get out of the tree, then reported to their parents in a…</p>
<p>I had a very similar situation with two children in my neighborhood that were being home schooled. I happened to be at home one day when my two dogs went absolutely crazy outside, this was when we had our large dogs an aussie and bulldog chow mix. I was so sick of hearing it that I stepped out of my back door and low and behold in a very large tree were those kids throwing sticks and rocks at my dogs. I proptly yelled at them to get out of the tree, then reported to their parents in a nice manner what the kids were doing (as I suspected they had no idea) and they never pulled that little stunt again to my knowledge. Good luck. Talk to the parents as calmly as possible.</p> As everyone else has already…tag:mycorgi.com,2011-12-08:1150197:Comment:13987502011-12-08T15:15:35.410ZYuki & Elliehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Jennifer970
<p>As everyone else has already stated, try to address the cause of the situation first (the child knocking on your door.) You don't strike me as the type to overreact, so just keep things mellow and speak with the child's mother/father (if you're <em>sure</em> it's their child) as well as management. Get the complaint in writing, as Bev suggested, and see what that can do.</p>
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<p>In the meantime, you may wish to try the sound deterrents first. I, personally, hate the smell of…</p>
<p>As everyone else has already stated, try to address the cause of the situation first (the child knocking on your door.) You don't strike me as the type to overreact, so just keep things mellow and speak with the child's mother/father (if you're <em>sure</em> it's their child) as well as management. Get the complaint in writing, as Bev suggested, and see what that can do.</p>
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<p>In the meantime, you may wish to try the sound deterrents first. I, personally, hate the smell of citronella and would <em>not</em> want my home smelling like that just because someone isn't keeping their child out of trouble. Even if you have a hand-held device (those things are nice and cheap!), just keep it in your pocket at all times. I have yet to try one of these, but I know others who have them and love them. </p>
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<p>And I also agree that you may wish to start looking at new places sooner rather than later. I'm not sure how expensive things are where you live, but you may want to consider renting a small house rather than an apartment. My husband and I found a small (very small, a ranch style with just six rooms including the bathroom!) house to rent when I was pregnant with our first child and I'm so glad we did! The place wasn't a palace, but we didn't have neighbors right on top of us and I was finally able to get my first puppy, Yuki! :)</p>