Spooked - MyCorgi.com2024-03-29T08:53:03Zhttp://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/spooked?commentId=1150197%3AComment%3A1475791&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree also with the rolling…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14757912012-03-02T14:40:13.912ZJane Christensenhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JaneChristensen
<p>I agree also with the rolling over, this is a negative approach. When Sage and I were testing the Therapy Dog Inc. tester also said "let your dog be the judge" if they are feeling unsure let them go on to the next person. Even in agility we were told to not "push the dog" but to reintroduce. Hope this makes sense.</p>
<p>I agree also with the rolling over, this is a negative approach. When Sage and I were testing the Therapy Dog Inc. tester also said "let your dog be the judge" if they are feeling unsure let them go on to the next person. Even in agility we were told to not "push the dog" but to reintroduce. Hope this makes sense.</p> I agree with the other poster…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14758712012-03-02T13:54:24.479ZJanehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Jane944
<p>I agree with the other posters, don't roll him over, especially when he's scared. It's probably having exactly the opposite effect you were hoping for. He should be able to look to you for stability and reassurance, not be afraid he's going to be rolled onto his back and made totally vulnerable whenever something frightens him. Rolling him is basically punishing him for being afraid, which will make him even more wary of that scary thing next time. Definitely enroll him in a positive based…</p>
<p>I agree with the other posters, don't roll him over, especially when he's scared. It's probably having exactly the opposite effect you were hoping for. He should be able to look to you for stability and reassurance, not be afraid he's going to be rolled onto his back and made totally vulnerable whenever something frightens him. Rolling him is basically punishing him for being afraid, which will make him even more wary of that scary thing next time. Definitely enroll him in a positive based training class; as others have said therapy work can be very difficult for the dog and he will most likely need a lot of professional training before he can pass the test.</p>
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<p>I'd also start carrying a treat pouch and if he starts to get spooked by something, immediately get his attention and start feeding him treats. You want him to associate the scary thing with something wonderful happening: cheese, chicken, etc. If he's too worked up to even take a treat, then you need to just remove him from the situation and try again when there's more distance between him and the scary thing. If there's a kid he's wary of you can see if the child will toss him a few treats (with the parent's permission).</p> Sometimes it's just the tempe…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14757792012-03-02T07:31:40.280ZJuliahttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JuliaChurchill
<p>Sometimes it's just the temperament of the dog, and it may be something that you just can't change. Sometimes it's puppy stuff, and more exposure to more things over time can make the dog calmer out in the world, providing the handler reacts properly.</p>
<p>I've never had a therapy dog, but one of my dogs surprised me in this area. My crabby beagle (he had Cushing's disease) would not let anyone pick him up. He was, however, extremely tolerant of anything a child would do, and they were too…</p>
<p>Sometimes it's just the temperament of the dog, and it may be something that you just can't change. Sometimes it's puppy stuff, and more exposure to more things over time can make the dog calmer out in the world, providing the handler reacts properly.</p>
<p>I've never had a therapy dog, but one of my dogs surprised me in this area. My crabby beagle (he had Cushing's disease) would not let anyone pick him up. He was, however, extremely tolerant of anything a child would do, and they were too small to pick him up, anyway. I took him to school one day to meet with my Special Ed students. One girl had the mind of a young child, but the body of an adult/teenager. I looked down to fiddle with my camera, then looked up to find the girl holding the beagle, both of them happy as could be. He seemed to recognize her as a child, even in an adult body. This is not a dog I would have chosen as a therapy dog, but apparently he had a temperament that would have suited.</p>
<p>Go through the CGC training, use positive reward training rather than Alpha training, and see how his personality develops. Therapy may or may not be his thing. You'll know when he's older.</p> I would start with a basic ob…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14757752012-03-02T06:02:28.271ZJane Christensenhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/JaneChristensen
<p>I would start with a basic obedience class and see where that leads you. Sage my Therapy Dog started just going to classes took 3 got her CGC and then had to take 3 tests for Therapy Dog Inc. We both love it(I think) It's funny because once her martingale goes on and her thin leash she seems to know she's "working". Yes, Sage hates helium balloons and will walk as far away from them as possible. Have fun and use the positive reinforcement whatever happens or doesn't you will have a stronger…</p>
<p>I would start with a basic obedience class and see where that leads you. Sage my Therapy Dog started just going to classes took 3 got her CGC and then had to take 3 tests for Therapy Dog Inc. We both love it(I think) It's funny because once her martingale goes on and her thin leash she seems to know she's "working". Yes, Sage hates helium balloons and will walk as far away from them as possible. Have fun and use the positive reinforcement whatever happens or doesn't you will have a stronger bond:)</p> Agree with Melissa, the bond…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14758532012-03-02T05:26:15.017ZAnna Morellihttp://mycorgi.com/profile/AnnaMorelli
<p>Agree with Melissa, the bond that needs to develop between dog and owner is one of trust, love and mutual respect. Dominance is not shown by physically being able to roll a dog over (this is crude), but by genuinely being in a position to take the leading role in the dog-person relationship through knowledge and understanding, caring and a sense of responsibility, love and consistency. Rolling a dog over is easy, the rest takes years of applying oneself. I am sure you are well intended,…</p>
<p>Agree with Melissa, the bond that needs to develop between dog and owner is one of trust, love and mutual respect. Dominance is not shown by physically being able to roll a dog over (this is crude), but by genuinely being in a position to take the leading role in the dog-person relationship through knowledge and understanding, caring and a sense of responsibility, love and consistency. Rolling a dog over is easy, the rest takes years of applying oneself. I am sure you are well intended, but somehow got pointed in the wrong direction. You will find that a class with a trainer who employs positive methods will be a more rewarding experience for the both of you.</p> This is one reason I hate Cae…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14759332012-03-02T04:23:29.833ZMelissa and Franklin!http://mycorgi.com/profile/Melissa919
<p>This is one reason I hate Caesar Milan, the belief that rolling a dog on its back is a good idea. You should NEVER roll a dog on his back, especially when he is scared. A maneuver like that should be left to the professionals, and in fact if you ever watch professionals (besides Caesar) you will almost NEVER see a trainer do this. Basically by correcting him in this way you are punishing him for showing fear, which in essence is just going to make that fear stronger. You should do as some…</p>
<p>This is one reason I hate Caesar Milan, the belief that rolling a dog on its back is a good idea. You should NEVER roll a dog on his back, especially when he is scared. A maneuver like that should be left to the professionals, and in fact if you ever watch professionals (besides Caesar) you will almost NEVER see a trainer do this. Basically by correcting him in this way you are punishing him for showing fear, which in essence is just going to make that fear stronger. You should do as some other posters have suggested and use reward based training to help him develop confidence and not use punishment because you will get NOWHERE doing that (and rolling him on his back is a form of punishment). An obedience class at this point would be excellent to teach you and him some basic skills and help him with socialization. Take him all over the place to different strange situations and encourage him to investigate scary things with lots of praise and treats. The key is building his confidence in himself and in you as his leader. </p> Clue was born on 08-11, all h…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14758332012-03-02T03:43:18.086ZRebecca And Cluehttp://mycorgi.com/profile/RebeccaLSerpa
<p>Clue was born on 08-11, all his paper work says that. </p>
<p>I honestly don't remember the exact date I got him though. I think it was the last week of September, so he was about eight weeks then. He was a pretty big pup though. </p>
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<p>Alpha training is just simply rolling him on his back and holding him there. I never hit him in any way. He's very well behaved, doesn't have any behavoral problems other than typical puppy stuff. Loves people. </p>
<p> I'm just trying to train him…</p>
<p>Clue was born on 08-11, all his paper work says that. </p>
<p>I honestly don't remember the exact date I got him though. I think it was the last week of September, so he was about eight weeks then. He was a pretty big pup though. </p>
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<p>Alpha training is just simply rolling him on his back and holding him there. I never hit him in any way. He's very well behaved, doesn't have any behavoral problems other than typical puppy stuff. Loves people. </p>
<p> I'm just trying to train him while he is young. I'm in no rush, just something I would love to do in the future. </p>
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<p>Thank you everyone for your advice. </p>
<p></p> Alright. I didn't know there…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14755032012-03-02T00:38:21.418ZLudihttp://mycorgi.com/profile/LudivinedeRavel
<p>Alright. I didn't know there would be so many shelties - I find them to be pretty yappy, hyperactive dogs but I suppose that's because many owners here just take them on for their small size and collie looks, without actually exercising them.</p>
<p>Alright. I didn't know there would be so many shelties - I find them to be pretty yappy, hyperactive dogs but I suppose that's because many owners here just take them on for their small size and collie looks, without actually exercising them.</p> Many labs are just too bouncy…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-02:1150197:Comment:14754222012-03-02T00:10:27.100ZBethhttp://mycorgi.com/profile/Beth306
<p>Many labs are just too bouncy when young but good when older. You really see all breeds, but lots of Golden Retrievers. A fair number of bully breeds (boxers, bulldogs) because they tend to be pretty easy-going with people once they've had some basic obedience training. Lots of shelties. A fair number of setters. I've seen mutts and some breeds that you would not expect. Basically a steady, confident dog is the key. There was a sheltie in one of my classes who was friendly, sweet,…</p>
<p>Many labs are just too bouncy when young but good when older. You really see all breeds, but lots of Golden Retrievers. A fair number of bully breeds (boxers, bulldogs) because they tend to be pretty easy-going with people once they've had some basic obedience training. Lots of shelties. A fair number of setters. I've seen mutts and some breeds that you would not expect. Basically a steady, confident dog is the key. There was a sheltie in one of my classes who was friendly, sweet, and beautifully trained but he was a bit sound-sensitive and spooked in the test when they dropped a metal tray behind him. And so he failed. (The dog is allowed to startle but not run or panic).</p> Rebecca, how old is your pup?…tag:mycorgi.com,2012-03-01:1150197:Comment:14756392012-03-01T23:34:45.309ZAnna Morellihttp://mycorgi.com/profile/AnnaMorelli
<p>Rebecca, how old is your pup? Your profile says he was born 08-11 and that you got him in Sptember at 9 weeks old, so it does not add up. Age does make a big difference in pups. Also what exactly do you mean when you say "I alpha trained him"? Some of these techniques spell real trouble with dogs, especially with pups.</p>
<p>Rebecca, how old is your pup? Your profile says he was born 08-11 and that you got him in Sptember at 9 weeks old, so it does not add up. Age does make a big difference in pups. Also what exactly do you mean when you say "I alpha trained him"? Some of these techniques spell real trouble with dogs, especially with pups.</p>