We traveled a good distance to get our Winnie about 3 weeks ago. The breeder at the time of pick-up said the papers had arrived that day and she had not had the time to fill them out. She said she would send them out later that week. Well, she will not return our calls and no papers yet. All we know is Winnie was 9 weeks old and had 2 rounds of shots and worming. What do we do now?

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There is absolutely no reason that novice puppy buyers can't be JUST as personally acquainted with breeders as I am. I started in this breed too; I was a novice puppy buyer and I've bought puppies as many times as I've bred litters. It's not hard to get to know show breeders - go to shows. Go to meetings. Go to a Nationals; they will almost certainly rotate within driving distance within a couple of years of deciding that you want a breed. Go to good training clubs and ask the trainers.

Your standards have to be high enough that any doubt that this is somehow not a purebred dog is the LAST thing you'd think. You should be walking into a home where not only are they all very obviously purebred, most of them are pointed or champions or titled in whatever discipline the breeder has chosen.

And you've GOT to get a breeder who is involved in dogs and has a recognized peer group. That's the biggest protection you can give yourself. If your breeder is respected within her peer group - and I don't mean she always has to show, but she has to do SOMETHING that places her dogs and her own breeding practices in the light of criticism - then what you are getting is not just her assurance that she's decent but the assurance of her entire group.

Having a peer group also allows you to much more reliably put friendly and proper pressure on the breeder if she does do something hinky. If she's a member of her local breed club, you can call the secretary and the secretary will either tell you "Oh, no, that's totally normal, don't worry" or can say "I'll call Cheryl today." And then Cheryl gets a call from the secretary and she's got some serious consequences coming her way (in terms of the loss of respect of her peers, which is EVERYTHING in good dog breeding) if she doesn't straighten up and fly right.
I agree that the papers do not automatically give your dog the breed standard BUT wouldn't be up to the breeder to before hand explain this to the buyer that due to the circumstances the papers will take awhile to get, so they can come pick up the pup and know this ahead of time ...to me this is part of what I would want to know !!! If I was told this ahead of time this would be very different than finding out the day of the big homecoming and you already have that pup mentally as part of your family...that would be a BIG BUMMER. I have many of emails with my buyers etc. so why would any breeder wait till the day of to say they "don't have the papers"????? I would definatly have a problem with this...and as I said I did have and would expect something in writing...if for no other reason if (and hopefully never) someone not on the up and up would probably try to get out of the signed promise...just my thoughts!
Did you end up getting the paper from your breeder?
yes
I adopted Miranda at 4 months, and I had to email her breeder when Miranda was about a year old. It took a while after that to get the papers. She is registered under the breeder, but I never bothered to re-register her in my name. It cost a lot more money after you have had them for a while and I was not paying for my breeders lack of speed. So I just left it at that.
ps. I don't think it matters if you get the papers. Unless you plan on having your dog tested and AKC certified as a breeding dog, there is no point to getting the papers other than pride. If you are not going to breed your dog, I wouldn't worry about the papers.
Good, I'm glad your breeder came through after all. :)

True, papers are not necessary unless you plan to breed or show the dog but purebred dogs are not cheap and if I'm going to pay top dollar, I want everything that I'm supposed to get and that includes papers. What I do with them is unimportant. What is important is that if the breeder guarantees papers they need to follow through and provide them. Personally, after registering Finn I put his registration certificated which displays his registered name in an album I made for him. It's just like having a birth certificate for your child.

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