So my grandma is down for vacation and has brought her 4 dogs with her, (on top of Ein and our other 2) They got here Saturday. Saturday  there were no problems. Sunday there was only one growl. Ein is persistent and likes to poke and play. My grandma's dog Casey didnt like this, and they were barking and growling. (again not sure what, I just heard the noise, was studying at the time)  Monday I go to class and find out that he was aggressive twice. I come back and he had another scrabble with Casey. They were looking outside the Screen door, while one of the other dogs was looking inside. And all of a sudden he just goes after Casey! I mean hair raised, barking, growling, etc. I real dog scrabble/fight!  All these instances it was the same dog, Casey. Shortly after we put Casey in another room.

    My grandma and I were watching a movie on the laptop, with the recliner raised. ( We have one of those recliner couches.) Holly, my grandma's dog, and the dominant female of the (my grandma's ) pack,  starts to go underneath it. You know dog food, socks, etc get stuck....anyways. Ein was standing beside Holly when all of a sudden he goes after her! Complete dog fight in the living room!

I don't know what to do! I have kept him away for most of the night, only because I don't want another fight let alone bloodshed. I know keeping him isolated probably isnt best, I just don't want them to get hurt.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

 

I don't know if it helps but, a month or two ago, my moms mastiff had to be put down. He was the dominant of our little pack. I know that would disrupt any group, but I would think they would have worked things out. Pack order wise...so I am not sure.....

 

 

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Ok, well my grandparents dogs are gone, and have been for a couple of weeks. But now he has concentrated on my mom's dog, Colossus, a min pin mix. Well Colossus has been bit once. It is getting worse and I don't know how to correct it. We have a friends 6 month old puppy over and they played great. Got alot of energy out, which is what we thought was part of his problem. ...Now it has just escalated....it is quite odd though becuase he is only super aggressive inside. Backs the pup up all the way to the back door, and literally charges and herds her back there, corners her basically. She is very submissive. But its almost as if, he doesnt know when to stop being dominating.
And I think whats worse, is that there is no warning, no alertness, as you can usually tell the ears are raised,tail up, etc. He just turned into a jekyll/hyde dog and just snaps. He becomes soo focused, that stepping in to defend the pup or getting Ein away from the pup, forces Ein to growl at me.
Please help!

I am considering a shock coller, so at least that will stop him in his tracks to where I can get the pup away from him. But I honestly don't know...I am at a loss.
NO to the shock collar!! It will just make him worse. Have you gone to any obedience classes with him? It would help you both a lot. Meanwhile, I would leash him whenever other dogs are around and just have him stay by you. After a couple of days of that you can let him drag the leash so you can grab it if he gets aggressive. I added my son's doberman 1&1/2 years ago and had this problem with Sparty going after her. I leashed him in this manner and was able to put an end to the problem. I was able to recognize when Sparty was getting ready to get after her and also some of the things Misty did that would trigger his outbursts. If he went after her I said a firm no and a mild jerk to the leash. After a few days it only took a no and he would stop immediately. He needs to understand that you will not let him attack other dogs. Again I can not stress enough how much classes will help in this. Good luck.
The leash idea is a really good one, it gives you the chance to stop him if he starts to chase after the smaller dog.
No, no, no shock collar! A shock collar should not be used by amatuer trainers (and that's if it should really ever be used at all, but I won't get into that). Definitely talk to a good dog trainer. Enroll in an obedience class. Shock collars, when used by someone who is not a professional dog trainer, and doesn't know enough about proper corrections and training, can make a dog MORE aggressive and can increase the chances of someone getting hurt.

Was there any blood when the dogs got into tiffs? If there is no blood, I don't worry about it. Dogs will correct eachother, and a lot of times, we as people can't even tell what set it off, and that's perfectly okay. It sounds big and scary, but I promise it's not to the dogs. I have 3 dogs, and about once a day a mild correction (which is often a growl, teeth showing, or a quick "snark), will escalate to the point where it sounds like someone is going to die (the mild corrections happen about a dozen times a day). I just sit back and watch it happen, and it's over in 5 seconds and they are best friends again. These kinds of things are bound to happen in multi dog households, just like brothers and sisters will fight from time to time.

Read this article before you do anything else. Think like a dog, NOT like a person. I can't say anything for sure without seeing it, but often times what we may think is aggression is normal dog behavior. If you really do think your puppy is truly dog aggressive, you need to get him in with a good behaviorist right away. Good luck and keep us updated!
Thats the thing, he has had classes. And has been trained. But like today, the other dog he has fought with (Colossus, who yes there was blood, his ear was bitten) came up to Ein when he was eating and shared the bowl right with him. While just yesterday he was getting agressive and getting the dogs away from both the food and water bowls...Its also weird beause it doesn't seem like its the same aggressive thing every day. Also earlier in the week, Ein almost bit my hand, while last night, he ate and then laid down, not sure what to do. But was very solomn and quite.

An update:
They seemed fine this morning when my mom got ready for work, and there were no problems. But we shall see. The lawn guy is coming to mow the lawn...so not sure whats gonna happen...Also, They are not playing outside like they were the first night we brought her home...they just walk around the yard now.
I would suggest seeing a behaviorist. It sounds like you may need to do some training beyond basic obedience, and you really need a professional for that. Many well meaning owners try to "fix" these problems themselves, and actually can make the dog more aggressive.
that's a great article, i just read it myself. :)
I agree about the shock collar. I don't think they are suitable for aggression; if your dog associates the pain from the collar with the other dog, it could make things worse. You also need precision timing to use one. My father's trained field trial pointers, and bird dog people generally use shock collars. I can't say I'm a huge fan, but I must admit that I cannot really come up with an alternative way to correct a dog from a couple hundred yards away either, and a dog who runs off with the bird in its mouth is pretty much worth absolutely nothing. So I don't judge; they have their place. However, my father says he's seen good dogs ruined forever with improper use. Say the dog is running off on you repeatedly. The handler starts working her with a collar, then gives recall word from a distance and the dog starts to move off in the opposite direction, then thinks better of it and just as she's turning her head back towards her person, the handler (with those slow reflexes we humans have) is hitting the collar. Now the dog associates turning in towards you with the hit from the collar and presto, you've just trained your dog to do exactly what you were trying to stop her from doing. They take a delicate touch to work effectively.

I concur that you might want to have Ein evaluated. Has he had a physical to rule out any medical causes?
That's kind of how I feel too Beth! I can't think of how you would train bird dogs any other way, but I don't see myself ever using a shock collar, and I don't think they are a good choice for your average pet owner.
Hi, all. We have a shock collar but not for our Corgi, we have on for our 105 lb Black Shepherd. Sheba used to run off on us while we were trail walking or let her off-leash in a large field. She would go missing for like 10 mins. Since the shock collar, she always comes back. We usually only have to use the "warning" on Sheba..which omits a pulse and she's back in sight close by us. Only once or twice in the beginning did we need to actually shock her.

I would not use it on an aggressive dog.

One thought crossed my mind when you left your last post, Kristine was that there could be something medically wrong with Ein. It's possible he has pain somewhere and when another dog gets close to the area, he flips out. I would get him checked out by your vet as well.

Just an FYI, there are times when we will be walking Jake, our Pem, on leash in a big field and he'll come across another dog and after they say "hi" and once in a great while he doesn't like his b*tt smelled he will turn and bark and growl at the other dog. I can never figure out what triggers it .


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