How Long Do I Have to Wear This ?
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Comment by Wilson Waddlepants and Joyce on October 10, 2012 at 1:21am
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Hi Lois, For some reason I wasn't notified of your message via email, and I just found it when I logged into MyCorgi. It turns out that the breeder in Athens isn't going to be having any puppies this time around. I didn't want to ask her what exactly went wrong. The female red and white she had that was born early in August was sold last week. However, the vet/breeder in Murfreesboro, TN had a litter of three pups a week ago and she said we can have one of them. There's a red and white male : ), and a tri colored male, and a tri colored female. The mother is co-owned and the other owner is going to look them over first to see if there are any she thinks are "show quality" and then I can choose from the remaining two. Please pray the red and white male is NOT show quality ! I keep saying I'm open to a tri color and then I change my mind. I'm kind of stuck on the idea of a red head, or red and white, and a tri colored might have a red head, but it might have a lot of black, and in my mind, it wouldn't look the way I'd like it to. That sounds really picky I know. Basically, all Corgis look the same, but then again,the coloring on the face can make them look much different. I don't know. We'll see. I watched the video of Reese "asking for dinner" yesterday. She's so darn cute. Our beagle foxhound doesn't bark very much, but when she yawns she makes an adorable whining sound. I'm sure she does it on purpose. : )
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Comment by Lois B. Allen on October 6, 2012 at 11:42am
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Hi Joyce, Have you heard anything new from the litter that was expected to have more than one pup? I love your website. It is the kind of place I like to go to. I love to fish for trout but just catch and release when I can. Winnie watching TV is so good. I posted a video of Reese asking for dinner yesterday. She started and I told her to wait for me to get the camera so I could catch it to show you but she continued to bark and got tired and frustrated so that at the end she flopped down like the was going to fade away. Obviously, she eats plenty. We have a high school adjacent to us and they must have had home coming last night. I had to lock the dogs in and lay on the bed with them till everything was over as Randy was worried and barked and ran back and forth from front to back. Let me know how the puppy hunting is going.
Lois
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The breeder with the puppies due this weekend doesn't have a website. She's a vet and also works at a spay neuter clinic in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. I do think she should have a website though, so I could spend all day looking at her Corgis. : ) The other breeder I was talking to in Athens, TN has a website. She's the one who determined her upcoming litter is probably only going to have one pup. http://www.immeressen.com/corgipups.html There's a lot of good info on the site, but the quality of the site isn't very good. One of our sons is a web designer so my standards are pretty high. He developed our business website: http://www.MountainGlen.com Anyway, every day when I wake up I start thinking about the litter that's supposed to be born this weekend and wonder if there's a little red and white boy. ♥ ♥ ♥ They also have a female available that was born on August 3rd: http://www.immeressen.com/biggerpictures.html We really want a little boy, but I think we could be influenced fairly easily to take a female ! My husband keeps looking at her picture saying she looks so sweet and maybe we should get her ! It's her eyes he says. The breeder told me she breeds companion dogs not show dogs which probably explains her silly name which is "Suzy Cream Cheese". She's ADORABLE and looks like she'll be a red and white, although with the darker colors on her muzzle she might be a sable and white which would be cute too. Her parents are both red and whites which I think is dominant, right ? It's interesting how most corgi pups are charcoal gray on their little bodies, but what you said is so true; they can change drastically. What I like about that breeder is she house breaks and crate trains her pups before she lets them go to new homes.
I watched the video of Reese barking outside for you to MAKE Randy let her back in ! Those two must provide you with constant entertainment. It's so cute that Reese has her various little barks for different things. Our Girlie doesn't bark a lot but has very expressive eyes. I can tell Reese does too. Also, Girlie does the full body wag like Reese. We've never had a female dog before and she's definitely different than any boy we've had. Of course, I'm sure we "treat" her like a girl. She has two pink collars and when we grab a leash we make sure it's the purple one and we're always telling her how pretty she is.
I was thinking about your description of Reese "waiting" on the love seat, sitting there looking like a person. She's so darn cute. I attached a picture of Winnie watching TV on the couch. He always sat like that. (Now I'm crying)
I was looking at pictures of your yard and your pups have a great place to play and hang out. Yes, it's smaller than if you had a house, but there are enormous benefits to living in a Townhouse and I'd say Reese and Randy have it made !
Enjoy your weekend.
JOYCE
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I am so glad that you have found someone close by who, hopefully will have a healthy litter soon. Does she have a website so that you can look at her dogs? I have almost never seen such a red head as your Winston, he was quite unusual and good looking. They do change a lot from the way they look as babies. Randy was originally dark grey, almost charcoal but Linda told me he would be a red and she though he would be a dark red and she also thought he would have a glamor coat. He coat is longer than that but not as long as the usual fluff or as long as his great aunt that I had. He does have a beautiful coat when it is grown out but in many of his pics, he has the short hair because I clip it. He also had a good sized white spot on his head above his eyes and that largely went away and now he has a tiny white streak that starts up and disappears. What attracted me to him was his eyes. I should have known they were full of mischief but I just thought they were bright and intelligent. Even though his is mischievous, he is very intelligent and is greatly entertaining. I am just saying that no matter what they look like at about 8 weeks, they can change drastically and I wouldn't give up my bad little boy for anything. Of course, he still gets Reese outside and won't let her back through the doggie door and various of his naughty activities. I posted a video of him sitting at the back door and you can see a wagging tail outside and hear barking in which she is calling me to make him let her in.
Reese talks to me quite a lot when it is about time for their evening meal. Normally, she is on their love seat, sometimes laying with her head and/or righ leg on the arm (looking like a person) or sitting fully upright if she is really serious and maybe I am late. She has a special happy bark for these events and her eyes shine with happiness because she knows food will soon come. I often sit and try to imitate her and she just continues along and gets to wagging with it. It is not the protecting type of bark or the kind of bark she uses with Randy, although she has different barks for some not serious and others threatening to bit his head off. When I start to the kitchen she follows and wags her full body so there is no question that she is a happy girl. She waits near where I put their bowel down while randy crowds me and often stands on one of my feet until I lift it and shake it or if I am really slow, he will lay down and put his head on my foot. It would be faster if her weren't in the way but he is young yet.
Yes, Linda's last name is Muglach (pronounced Mu-klak) and her website is www.nanteos.net and it has her phone no. if you want it. Any of the local breeders that show know each other and even thought they compete are often friends.
My blinds are vertical now so unless I open them fully, they hang down at dog level. I put tiles on all of my low window sills since I have had many damaged with toenails over the years. Recently, my neighbor's pup has been chewing on one of her's that is not readily visible and she wasn't happy. I just laughed and said that is why I have tiles on mine.
Oh, I never heard that about a single pup not taking up enough space in the uterus. They doesn't make since since I would think the uterus would only expand as much as needed for the number being carried but I don't really know anything about that.
I really like your nice yard. I don't have a very big one anymore since I downsized into a townhouse but I have an end unit and consequently have more yard than internal units and when the place was built, they build the doggie door into the wall for me and then put another one on the porch directly opposite so the dogs can shoot out really quickly.
So long for now. Lois
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Lois, thanks for the info about litter sizes. I spoke to someone a couple of days ago who told me the last time she bred her dog the sperm came from a male that lived in another state and she referred to it jokingly as a FedEx affair ! The reason I asked if a dog expecting only one pup would need a c-section was because I read that sometimes with only one pup in the uterus there can be too much open space, and the contractions aren't as effective. That didn't make much sense to me, because why would the uterus enlarge beyond what was necessary to accomodate one puppy ?
Our Winston was about 13 inches tall too. Having never seen another Pembroke I didn’t realize he was taller than the breed standard. He weighed 38 pounds at one point which we thought was too much even if he was taller so we reduced the amount of his kibble morning and night, added green beans, and only gave him carrots and frozen pumpkin cubes for treats.
Regarding your "blinds story", when Girlie first came to us, she used to love to roam around our campground, but when we took her in we never allowed her to go outside unless she was on a leash or in our fenced yard. So, she decided she would sit on the back of our couch and stare out at the campers from a 4' X 8' window.
Interesting to note is that our 3 bedroom/2 bath home is on the second level of a building that houses the laundry area, office, store, and restrooms for the campground, so the window she's looking out is up quite high and our guests regularly comment about "the cute dog up in the window". : ) We have to put the blinds up every morning to accomodate her. So far they haven’t been thrashed.
Again, you've managed to entertain me with your description of Reese and her "putting up" with Randy, her talking, and her revenge peeing and pooping ! What did you mean by the statement that she "tries to tell you what to do when it comes to food"? I can only begin to imagine what hilarious story you might tell me about that.
Last, but not least, what is Linda's last name ? Is it Linda Muglach ? That's someone in Alabama that I was referred to by another breeder. The good news is, I initially contacted a breeder by the name of Donna Steuart in Murfreesboro, TN about 1 ½ hours from me, and I didn't hear anything back. Two days ago I spoke with a breeder named Lynn Goad from Milton, TN who knows Donna quite well, and she said that Donna lost her last litter a week before the puppies were to be born so she’s been reluctant to respond to puppy requests until she knows she has a litter in the whelping box and they're all healthy and strong. She suggested that I email her again and mention her name, which I did. I got an immediate reply from Donna and she told me about losing the last litter and also informed me she is expecting a new litter THIS WEEKEND give or take a day or two. So, of course you can imagine my delight at hearing that. She told me to contact her after the first week of October and she'll let me know what she has and if they're healthy and strong !
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Joyce there are a bunch of things that affect the number of puppies, such as first litter but also some people who breed to show but also sell may use frozen sperm to get a really good cross when desirable dogs live far apart. The frozen sperm is not as good as fresh so there may not be as many pups and some may not be very healthy and don't live long. There may be problems occasionally with second litter, I think but am not sure. There would not be a C-section unless there is a complication or the pups are unusually large. The pups in Randy's litter were really big and Randy is a big corgi. He is probably 22" from shoulders to nub and is about 13" tall in leg area and he weighs 35 - 36 lb. I thought he was an adorable little baby but those little front feet were big so I expected a big boy and that is what I got.
I just hung new blinds in the front room and left them closed and heard them flapping and banging so I got up and opened them. I wonder how long it will take them to wreck these. Originally, I had horizontal blinds and just raised them enough for the dogs to look under but 3 years ago or about I was letting a neighbor's cousin park in my drive way and he managed to back into the front room but only knocked the windows out so after the repairs, I got vertical but they were too thin and flimsy, so the dogs have damaged them. I hate horizontal because of the pain of cleaning them.
Initially, Reese indicated that she understood that she was to "put up" with Randy and sometimes when he was doing his "brat" bit, she would just look at me and smile. She now talks to me and occasionally, I will swear that she says words like yes, no and simple common things. I did have problems with her initially because she really thought she was going to be the boss so I had revenge peeing and pooping in the front room and today I found streaks on the wall by the blinds and Randy never learned to raise his legs, he has starting slightly lifting one since she came but he squirts straight down, so I suspect her!! She is fine now, for some reason when she first came she learned to go out the doggie door but didn't always do it but she was also sick so that is the reason for some true accidents. She is fine now but tries to tell me what to do when it comes to food.
If worse comes to worse, check with Linda about pups, she has predominately red and white but I don't know how her cost compare to others.
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"So now, we pray for puppies". I love that and it is in fact what I have resolved myself to do. There's a puppy out there for us, and since he'll become a member of our family, and hopefully for many, many years, he's worth waiting for. Timing is everything. The breeder I've been talking to that has the female that is probably only having one puppy has records for all her pups online and that particular female is 4 1/2 years old and has had one previous litter. Since she's a little bit older, is it unusual for her to have only one puppy ? Will she need a c-section ? The other female who she said she's waiting for her to "fill out" before she gets excited is 16 months old and this would be her first litter. She's a red headed tri and the male is a red and white. Her parents were a red and white and a black headed tri. His parents were both red and whites. We all know I want a red and white. I'm like a broken record on that.
A breeder I talked to yesterday referred me to someone who's located less than two hours from me and said she's expecting a litter any day now. I thanked her and told her that I'd already found her name at the PWCCA website and had sent her an email and left her a phone message two weeks ago but never heard anything back. She told me she knows her well and she lost a whole litter the last time so she's being overly cautious this time. I'm not sure that explains why she can't return a phone call or an email message, but I guess it does qualify as a reason. She suggested I contact her again and mention that she referred me so I gave it a shot. It turns out that finding a puppy is harder than I ever imagined it would be.
I just realized that Randy looks like a soft, fluffy rendition of a lion. I was also giving some thought to the antics that go on between Reese and Randy, and I remembered that quite often, when Girlie was sitting in the living room chewing on a bone or a toy, Winston used to walk right up to her and literally snatch it away from her if he felt he needed to assert himself. He got no argument from her, and it was as though he occasionally had to do something like that just to prove he wasn't a total pushover, which he was most of the time ! : )
It's interesting that you mentioned Reese's fixation with food. Girlie was six months old when she came to us and from what we can tell she was roaming the rural roads in our area and had been scavenging for food, until she came to us. We run an RV Park and campground so when she found us she hit the jackpot because many of our guests were feeding her. She was so sweet they took her to the local state park to go hiking with them and even bought her toys. We made sure everyone knew we were looking for a home for her, but no one offered. Of course we're glad because we love her dearly. She does seem a bit fixated on food simply I think because she started out as a puppy never knowing when or if she'd have food on a regular basis.
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Joyce, when a breeder has bred a young bitch, especially for the first time everything is iffy as to whether or not it took and how many. When Randy's Mom was bred the first time, she had 2 huge puppies that had to be delivered by C-section. Linda might not have bred her again or waited longer but Randy's Dad took matters into his own paws, etc. That time she had 5 and they were big so another C-section, so even though she is a champion she will probably not be bred again and I think Linda has plenty of females to breed if she has time.
I've had dogs most of my life and loved them dearly but my little Sandy had a special way with her and I only wanted a corgi after that. Randy loves everyone but is a menace to society as I don't do a good job controlling him. I only have 1 younger friend that is dog savvy that deals well with him otherwise he has to be on a leash and sometimes the Halti collar. He would just love them to death so it takes an hour or so for him to calm down before I can let him off the leash. He doesn't get to see many men but I have a couple who are long term friends who love animals so the man is one of Randy's men. The last time they were here and getting ready to leave, Randy ran across the living room up his riding chair and launched himself at the head of the guy, who ended up defending himself, trying to catch Randy and keep the chair from falling. My baby just couldn't stand having his buddy leave. He will be 2 next month and is settling some so I hope he will get calmer with age.
Reese's head is similar to your female dog's it seems to me. I have had Reese a little over a year and I know she was a well loved pet by someone but I also know that she had been through a lot when I got her. She is fixated on food and I think she has been hungry a lot. Someone had loved her enough to have had her operated on for one inguinal hernia because the doctors found an old incision on the side opposite to the one I had them repair a hernia on. Reese would like to be the boss but has decided that her deal is pretty good even when Randy acts like a brat and we both hope he grows up some day.
I do hope you can get a puppy before too long. I wanted to adopt or rescue a corgi but none came my way so when I found that Reese was part corgi, I decided to take her. I don't think she would have lived a lot longer if I hadn't gotten her because she was sick and had been in 2 rescue facilities for over a total of a year. She is a very sweet girl but it is not the same as having a chance to bond and have your own influence on a puppy. Although, Randy was/is an alpha and has a strong will, he is very sweet most of the time. He is one of those little ones who doesn't want you to have the last word and sometimes waits to do something until you have told him more than once. He is very smart and can learn anything but is naughty enough to disobey some of the time but he is all mine and he loves Reese to death. We are both his moms and he even plays us against each other (as if we cared).
So now, we pray for puppies.
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I told my daughter what you said about Sandy fancying herself a mouser and how she layed outside to watch for them but she just slept and no rodents were in danger and she laughed hysterically ! You really have a way with words. What you said about males in some breeds bonding more strongly with women was certainly true with Winston. I know for sure we want another male Corgi but we're beginning to bend when it comes to coloration. We've decided if we can find a red headed tri, a sable and white OR a red and white we'll be quite excited. Unfortunately the breeder I was the most interested in just contacted me and said the litter they're expecting very soon is only going to have one puppy. So, that ends that prospect. : ( She has another female who's expecting in mid October, but she said she's waiting for her to start filling out before she gets excited about it. I haven't had a chance to write back and ask what she means by that and I'm wondering if she's not sure about whether the female is actually pregnant, or if she's unsure as to when the puppies will be born. I've been in touch with several other breeders, but I'd really like one that's less than two hours away. Your Randy sounds so sweet and loving. Reading what you shared about him laying in bed with you and laying his head on yours as though to "transmit love & health" only makes me more determined to find a new Corgi as quickly as I can. This is our beagle foxhound Girlie. She came to us after we had Winnie, but they got along great. My daughter always said that Winnie loved everyone. I think you're wonderful for taking in Reese and caring for her. She looks so sweet and I especially love that picture where she's at the end of the coach next to Randy.
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Joyce, I think you are right to get a puppy for the reasons that you gave. I have a good relationship with Reese but she has baggage that complicate things sometimes but if I had raised her from puppyhood, it would be different. Sandy would follow me around when she wasn't playing with Wendy but they had a ball playing together. Sandy also fancied herself a mouser and she would lay out side and watch for rodents at night but I think she just slept and no rodents were in danger. She developed heart disease and couldn't be quite as active in later years but the 2 dogs and I spent quite a bit of time together around the house. I understand that in some breeds male dogs will bond more strongly with women and some of that seems to occur in corgis. Before Reese came, Randy would try to get me to play but sat a lot of time in my laps. When Reese came, it seems she must of told him that I belonged to her then. So we went through a period where he seemed afraid to get in my lap and would look around to see if she might be watching. He gets back in my lap more now but seems concerned if she knows it--??? He is a "sensitive" and is very concerned about me and my health if I have problems. I had 2 falls 2 days apart New years eve day and on the 2nd and I hurt the same parts in both falls and ended up taking having to take steroids twice. Well, he would lay in bed with me and take every step with me when I was us as if he would need to do something. One time, he pulled his body up on mine and laid his head on mine as if he was trying to transmit love & health to me. Recently, I had dental surgery and he knew something was wrong. So he followed me around for about 4 days and kept trying to smell my mouth. I wonder if he could smell the microorganisms or some materials used in the bone graft???? He is a big, rough boy, yet sweet and tender so he is a really funny combination of characteristics. As I said Reese was very sick when I got her, he also stayed with her and watched over her. Some times she would have chills and he would lay on her. He treats us both as if we are his mothers and he plays us against each other!! She is about a year to year and a half older than he is but she has had at least one little of pups so she threatens him when he is too rough. So we have a funny triangle going on here. I think it will help you to get the puppy and have to meet its needs as I did since they take a lot of time at first. ttyl, Lois
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