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Comment by Zigward & Kimberly on December 8, 2012 at 1:10pm

LOL. Yea, research pays off!! I just emailed Lee English to see if she knows about this, and am waiting for a response. I've spoken with her a few times before about people using her puppies to lure others in.

Comment by Zigward & Kimberly on December 8, 2012 at 1:07pm

Also gonna tack on.. It's actually not just the merles--all the puppies from the Available Puppies page are from Lee English's website!!

Comment by Gloria & Kalu on December 8, 2012 at 1:04pm

OMG!! KIM!  thats awful ... PHEW glad i listened to ya about calming my tits down before making rushed decisions LOL

Comment by Zigward & Kimberly on December 8, 2012 at 1:02pm

Ok, I know this is an old post, and Gloria already has a puppy now.. But I want to rant and complain here.. That lynnwelshcorgis.webs.com breeder...... There two merles on the "Available puppies" page right now.. SHE DID NOT BREED. Obviously, she is claiming to, but she's lying. They came from Lee English. http://www.thecorgilady.com is her website, and you can see their pics on her Corgis With Color page, and on the Puppies page. Juuuuuuuussssssssst thought I would toss in.

Comment by Shippo, Gidget & Sheldon on October 6, 2012 at 4:32am

I see a couple blue merles in the available puppies page on the website you linked.  Those puppies are not purebred because blue merle doesn't exist in Pems.  I saw a blue merle Aussie in one pic so I'm wondering if she's doing what some other people are doing to create blue merle Pems which is still a mixed breed no matter how many times they breed them back to a Pem.  I wouldn't consider them to be reputable at all, no matter how much they want to talk about their puppies.

I also wanted to mention that the puppy you posted pictures of won't keep the blue eyes anyway, all puppies eyes are blue and will turn their actual color when they get older.  Now if the blue is really light then it will likely remain blue but that puppy's eyes will turn brown.

Comment by Yuki & Ellie on October 3, 2012 at 12:19pm

Head to the breed site:  PWCCA  There you can search for breeders in any state.  If you are open to cardigans as well, then their site is CWCCA.  Once you get used to what a reputable breeder's site looks like (and by all means, don't limit yourself to just sites!  Lots of great breeders don't have an online presence so give them a call instead) then you can start looking around on your own.  My pup didn't come from a PWCCA breeder because her parents are working stock.  By the time I found her, though, I knew what to look for in a good breeder and felt comfortable with my corgi's breeder.  :)

Comment by Gloria & Kalu on October 3, 2012 at 12:04pm

Wow I really appreciate all the feedback! They definitely held me back.

would this site be more reputable?  After talking to this seller, I find her to be very willing to describe her puppies' personalities and such  

http://lynnwelshcorgis.webs.com/

suggestions?

Jen >> I haven't given much thought to a one year corgi yet but I'm definitely not welcoming those :)! Is there another site other than puppyfind that is more reputable? 

Jane>> Thank you very much for the reply. After looking alot more I kind of sort the difference now. My family is actually planning on moving next spring, and we already talked to the people living downstairs and they said they actually own a pet too lol because they didn't read the contract carefully so it wouldnt bother them and they should even play together haha

thanks for the headsup about the price,  http://mycorgi.com/profiles/blogs/actual-costs-of-a-puppy actually helped me alot. I will definitely put more thoughts into that:)

Comment by Jane on October 3, 2012 at 9:47am

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but I would not buy a dog that isn't AKC registered. That's usually a sure sign of a shady breeder in it to make money, and nothing else. Puppyfind is full of them so be careful. I checked out that breeder's website and she has at least 5 different breeds she's breeding which is a big red flag.

 

A pup from a good breeder usually costs more because the person has invested a lot more time and money into their dogs. Usually they are finished champions or excel at some other venue, have nice structure, are temperament tested, and health tested (hips, eyes, DM, etc, not just a "vet check"). They only breed their dogs in an attempt to further the breed, not to make money or just for more "pets." They will probably ask lots of questions in order to match you with a puppy that fits your lifestyle. They also usually have a health guarantee and will take the dog back at any time.

 

Backyard breeders on the other hand just breed whatever male and female they have, with no regards to structure (and structure isn't just for show...it does affect how the dog moves and such), health or temperament. They don't care if the puppy's personality matches yours, or is a good match for your household. All they want is the money. Many times the dogs are kept in kennels and are never let in the house.

 

And also keep in mind that a new pup will also usually run you around $2k in the first year alone just on vet bills, supplies, etc. If the purchase price is really a strain I would advise waiting until you have a significant savings built up in case of emergencies. And do you have a back up plan in case he does bark a lot? Are you willing to move?

Comment by Yuki & Ellie on October 3, 2012 at 8:40am

You can find reputable breeders who have puppies for reasonable prices, but sometimes you have to be willing to wait for those pups to come along.  Sometimes you can find a pup from working parents (i.e. parents who actually herd cattle or sheep on a farm rather than being shown, as my corgi's parents do) that are more reasonably priced.

Have you considered getting a slightly older (but still young) corgi?  Breeders sometimes have dogs that they no longer wish to use for breeding, or even pups that didn't like the show ring, that need to be rehomed.  These are often at a much reduced price because they are around one year old or older.

Comment by Zigward & Kimberly on October 3, 2012 at 12:39am

Reputable breeders are pretty easy to spot :) A lot of them show, and have championship dogs.. The parents will be registered.. Typically a reputable breeder will refer to her female dogs as "bitches" and the males as "dogs".. A lot of reputable breeders don't have websites, too... They generally won't sell breeding rights, etc. It's all about looking into it and talking to people and making sure that they know their stuff :)

When I was going to be getting a Corgi pup, he was going to be coming from people who owned a farm and bred Corgis just because, so not technically "reputable".. I think my main concern

They generally are more expensive in the now, but can wind up saving you money big time in the long run :)

It's all a risk.. It's just you can sway the odds in your favor:P Like I said, my pup wasn't gonna be from a  "reputable" breeder either--just a farm dog bred by other farm dogs.. But I still would have gotten him in a flash if I had been allowed to. (Happy I didn't... Ziggy is perfect :D)

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