Help Me please!!!
so i have a four month corgi and he bites. I dont know what to do we bought him a lot of toys but when he plays he starts biting my hands and hard i tell him no and if he continues i put him in his cage but he just doesnt stop he also chases my little brother and bites him i know they are herding dogs but he onnly does that to my brother . any advice would be much appreciated ..Thanks!!
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Permalink Reply by Avyon on
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What a cute little boy :)
Well my first question would be when did you get your puppy? What did you do when you first got him? Were rules set and have they been followed by everyone?
My first advice would be 1. to bring him to puppy kindergarten (yes this really exists) it will help you and your new pup learn about one another and introduce him to other dogs and people in a safe environment. If not a private practice then petco may have it.
Secondly, you will hear two different opinions on the crate behavior. Some people say don't put your dog in it for punishment while others (which i follow) say you can do it but make sure you only do it for MAX 10 min. Thats pretty much the attention span of your dog and they will forget why they are in the cage but stay upset and learn to dislike it.
For the biting and the chasing. Have you exercised your little boy enough? Having a puppy you should have at least 1 hour of constant play.. none stop wear out puppy time EVERYDAY. If thats the best you can do... if your home you should be around you pup constantly and have it part of the family. (If you are then awesome! Its just some people don't so it has to be said :))
Start leash training your pup.. while its great for walks it does other things like discipline training.. it shows your little boy who's boss and to watch and follow you as a leader. Also start doing watch and come commands which is also the first basics to teaching him whos boss.. if you need advice on how to do these please let us know :)
now the biting.. ALWAYS discipline your little boy on this.. if it goes on too long Corgis are smart little dogs and learn quickly what they can get away with.. play time is play time but too rough of play can be harmful as they get older.. they need to learn first the difference between the two. There are four things I have done to correct dogs on this and that is because all dogs are different in personality... though I caution and say give each thing at least two weeks attempts before moving onto the next idea.. this is also because tricks and teachings take time.. its not an overnight affect.
Im going to list these as you should do them just because they get a little more extreme
1. the OWE... most people use this on puppies.. its basicly like another pup yipping which usually stops play.. teaching the other not to bite their pack mate too hard during play... basicly drop what your doing scream OWE and turn away from the pup.. ignore it until it does the "im sorry" or stops playing with the current toy and pays attention to you. This usually works
2. Taking the toy away/ignoring the dog. Just drop what your doing every single time and turn away.. just like the owe but not saying the owe.. this is more for dogs who think the OWE means Play with me harder! and get excited by the noise. Usually just ignore your pup for 10 seconds.. just long enough for them to get the idea of "if I calm down they will play with me" Though sometimes this can also extend into crating your pup for the 10 mins with no toys and a blanket or something over it so they are excluded from everything.
3. the mouth grab. GENTLY! there is no reason to ever be abusive to your pup or hurt them.. but I personally am ok with the "alpha" roles if they are needed. If your pup just constantly wont stop at all no matter what and is chewing mostly on your hands.. what has worked for me in the past is to once again GENTLY as your pup is gnawing down on your hand just grab their lower jaw. They instantly stop and a good "NO" in a low loud growl stops them. This is a more aggresive form and should only be used if nothing else helps.. leash.. ignoring.. etc.
4. good ol flick of the nose.. we've all done it for something.. brother's husky lets go every time for this one with the "what the?" look.
extra trick!
For puppies and mainly corgis since we have the advantage when they are smaller... pick him up :) After a good moment or two of scrambling/wiggling, they usually calm down...
this also shows an alpha role of "im bigger then you look what I can do"
Don't coddle him if you do this though.. just pick him up.. wait for him to calm down.. say good pup and let him go. Its rewarding calm behavior which you should constantly do if you want a good steady dog when he's older.
Thats all I can think of for now :) Also maybe if you haven't get some busybuddy or kongs or something that'll make him think as he plays. Corgis are smart little kids and need activities that keep their brains going.. this may also be an issue but maybe not :)
Goodluck!
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Permalink Reply by Carolyn Rosner on
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We had this with Ben, our 13 week old foster. We had two older dogs and they "disciplined" him in puppy manners. I also found a hard chew toy a "fish" and would give him that to chew on and redirect his behavior. He seemed to be teething when he really got rough with biting. Wearing him out play with a rope toy worked too plus NO and nose tapping. Good luck!
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Permalink Reply by Sam on
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Well done Avyon....I may also add that your pup should not be allow access to chase your brother until the nipping is under control. This can and will get worse.
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Permalink Reply by Little Bear on
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i got lucky as all get out with little bear. he's never been a biter. EVER. whew!
reading what avyon says, i agree... you have got to clamp his mouth shut and tell him "no" really loud. (unfortunately, before i got little bear i babysat my mom's corgi who IS a biter... a BAD biter, and i trained her to not bite. my mother loves me for it, let me tell you). never hurt them (like any of us could, we're on a website devoted to our babies, lol!), but you have GOT GOT GOT to show him who's boss or else he will always be defiant and controlling his whole life. and after you tell him no, just ignore him.
good luck!
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Permalink Reply by Cindi on
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Okay, have to chime in. As you may know, I'm a trainer by profession. Here are the high points:
Corgis are going to use their mouths for just about everything except sniffing butts. But biting is definitely a "no-no." The use of a high "yelp" sound like "OW!" is good. Think about this like a dog: if two dogs are playing and one gets too rough, what happens? Yelp! Then it's understood play stops. If the offending dog doesn't get the hint, one of two things happens. 1) It turns into a fight. 2) The offended dog turns away and ignores the offender. OW is a good thing.
When considering #2, again thinking like a dog...in a pack, should one dog act against the will of the pack/pack leader, the offender is ostracized; pushed away from the pack and ignored until they act as required. Dogs are social animals and just hate to be ignored. However, instead of using their crates I have a time out. In class I teach to establish a time out area; i.e. a short leash on a doorknob or an eyehook in the wall with a short leash. When the dog bites, give a correction (NO!) and a warning (OW!) and then take the dog to the time out spot and hook them, walk away, and return after a minute or so. Make them sit before being removed from time out. The isolation naturally tells the dog that what they did will not be tolerated in the pack. Also, if you find your dog bites, don't play anything that uses their mouths and your hands.
I do not believe in any aggressive contact, i.e. flicking the nose, pulling the lower jaw, holding the mouth shut, etc. In my experience, aggression always breeds aggression. The first step for the dog is fear. They do not understand the correction because it is foreign in dog-speak. Fear will lead to flight or fight. Initially your dog will begin to shrink from your hand and then become hand aggressive. You'll wish you never did anything to threaten the dog. One can establish leadership without ever having to resort to threats or violence. In dog-world, those actions bring on the need to survive and the results are always negative.
Corgis have strong personalities. They have to have that to do what they were bred to do: herd and drove. They nip. It's hard-wired. But you can bring about change with creating a pack hierarchy in your family (with you at the top) and then enforcing it through thinking like a dog. Feel free to email me if I can help!
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Permalink Reply by Maribeth on
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The yelping works - both of my Corgis did some exploratory nibbling. It was explained to me that puppies establish boundaries with each other by yelping when one of the puppies goes too far. When I yelped, both of them sat back on their haunches and looked at me in what seemed to be astonishment. It only took a few repetitions and they had it down cold.
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Permalink Reply by Natalie, Lance &Tucker on
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Good advice Cindi.....I have a question about corgis that arent use to being around small children when they cry or get disciplined and my corgi feels like he needs to protect....how do you handle a situation where the corgi is not used to being around small kids that are being disciplined or crying? Any suggestions? He is fine with older kids and he is ok with younger kids except for the crying/disciplinig?
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Permalink Reply by Heather on
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I would just take him to places where he can be around children, leashed of course, and after a while, he'll see that they are just small humans. Maybe just sit ouside a playground with him on a leash and let him observe (not interact) with the little children.
My GSD was leery of baby strollers, but we just kept going to parks and places where they are commonly seen, and now she doesn't even look twice at them.
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At our dog school, we try to never punish or correct with our hands. So, leash pops are the most common correction. The hand should always be where the reward comes from (food, pets, a good head scratch). So your hand is always something good, and the dog won't want to bite it.
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Permalink Reply by Corgi Bear and Handsome George on
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Oh boy maybe I have problems. Our CorgiBear loves to chew on our hands....so we bought a hand puppet toy with a squeker that she can chew on instead of our hands, although when i wear it sometimes she has quit a nipper. We are also herded up and down stairs, only the stairs and well it is funny so we don't mind.
However, I am looking for another link to discuss this but I think we have a huge jealousy problem. CorgiBear is female like me. She is totally connected with my husband. We both feed her and play with her and interact but my husband is home more often and she is more attached to him. Recently we (not knowing we should not have done this) took her to visit the place where we adopted her to pick out her brother. Since we came home, she has literally run from me to be under her fathers feet, has snarled her lip at me, won't give me the time of day and runs to her crate when I come toward her. Can she possibly think I am replacing her or is she going to very jeolous and aggresive toward out puppy. She has been the only dog for 1.5 years. I did not think Corgi's would show much aggression but she has curled her lip at me SEVERAL times over the past 6 months. Any ideas?
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Indeed you do have problems. I have to say I am sure there were many other subtle signs of this behavior prior to this incident. Sadly many people arent aware enough of dog "language" to see these signs and think nothing of it until there is a real problem.
She has no clue you are replacing her. Her behavior toward you stems from something far different. Without knowing your typical interactions with her I really dont have an answer as to why. What I may suggest here is that you become a bigger part of her life, spend more time with her, walk with her, feed her, groom her and establish a relationship. If you can find a training class in your area this would be a great opportunity for you to learn more about general dog behavior and create a bond with your girl. This will also be a nice outlet for socialization to see how she reponds to other dogs.
I am not sure if you are committed to purchasing another pup but from my past experience I am not thinking this would be a good time to add another dog to your home. I would think it would make good sense to take this time to work with your current dog to help her become a well mannered companion before adding another.
May also be a very good time to have a long talk with your breeder. If he/she has a good corgi background she should be able to help you sort out the behavior issues you are currently having. I am sure she would also agree that this would be best to do prior to adding another dog to your home. Having two corgis can be challenging in the best of circumstances. Good luck.
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