Simply put, for every puppy or kitten who is deliberately produced by any breeder, a shelter animal dies. Producing animals for sale is a greedy and callous business in a world where there is a critical and chronic shortage of good homes for dogs, cats, and other animals.

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Comment by Joanna Hubbard on December 28, 2008 at 1:17pm
While I do agree that it is important to work with rescue organizations and shelters, and support adoption of dogs from those locations, I don't think anyone should be so simplistic as to believe that this problem can be instantly solved by condemming those who choose to go another way. The situation of dogs in shelters is not the fault of those who search for dogs who were thoughtfully bred and selected. And I'd never want responsible breeders to quit in order for there to be only dogs from irresponsible breeders available for adoption.
Comment by Sylvia & Timmy on December 28, 2008 at 11:07am
My suggestion and comment, read Nathan Winograd's book, "Redemption". Then let's have a discussion. Your heart is in the right place, but please let's not throw the baby out with the bath water!
Comment by Cindi on December 28, 2008 at 9:26am
Okay. Breeders vs. Shelters. It's an old argument. Ours all came from rescues or shelters. We were fortunate. However they all came with "issues." Many of the dogs who die in shelters came from breeders, whether good ones or backyard/puppy mills. This is one argument that will simply go round and round without a satisfactory answer to either group.
Comment by Renee on December 28, 2008 at 5:25am
They're right! I'd give my right arm for a WWC corgi. I know how careful they are with the process.
Comment by Andythomas412 on December 28, 2008 at 4:44am
“Simply put” . . . .Life is not simple.

The same is true for you statement. I will use myself as an example, because frankly that’s my best resource. I wanted a Cardigan Welsh Corgi. Plain and simple. The first one I came into contact with stole my heart. My lil guy has stolen it as well.

I did some extensive looking into the rescue programs and shelters, and did not find much of anything. Especially in any close proximity. Also, call it what you will, but I wanted to train and raise my pup from as early as possible. This is simply almost non existent with a rescue, especially with Corgis, and Cardis at that.

So after I exhausted that search, I searched reputable breeders. Turns out the one I choose with out even realizing it was the one that two of the Cardis I know came from. [Which are beautiful and wonderful dogs btw]

I started off with email communication with the breeder. Told her about myself, and what I was looking for. She ‘qualified’ me as well as I qualified her. She does not just give pups to anyone, she looks for a good home. I went to her house/kennel and toured the place, met the new pups that I was prospectively looking at, and also met a few that were a lil older and also available. She took time with me and answered all my questions. It was obvious that the dogs she has are well taken care of and cared for. Another thing that was obvious is that she cares.

There are lots of things to take into account as others mentioned. The history of the bloodline for one. In my case, my pup is not likely susceptible to several of the common ailments of corgis, as they have been breed out. Some of them are non existent in this blood line.

Notably as well my breeder didn’t just “drop me.” Once I picked out a pup, I was welcome to come by and see him prior to his 8 week pickup date and spend time with him to bond. Once I had him, I have called her for advice on a couple of occasions and she was happy to hear from me, and happily offered the support. Most notably was a couple weeks ago when apparently he ate or licked something that didn’t agree with him and was vomiting. This was past 9pm and I hesitated to call her, but was really worried as he wouldn’t stop vomiting. She was not upset that I called her late, and advised me on what to do and asked questions to be sure of what was going on. She also asked that I let her know how it turned out and let her know he was ok.

You make it out as though breeders are in it for the money. [and surely some are] But honestly there are better ways to make money. It’s not a very profitable business. Take the litter that Cerio came from. They had to be delivered by C section. That right there negates most if not all of the profit, plus shots, dewormings, etc. So in the end they don’t end up making much.

Aside from all that. I am for rescue dogs, My childhood Border Collie, [whose still kicking at close to 14years] was a rescue. All the cats were rescue. I also hope eventually when I get a house with some proper land, to get a rescue corgi to be a companion to Ceiro.

I commend the heart behind your statement, but lets keep it in perspective. :)
Comment by Bay in TN on December 28, 2008 at 1:51am
I would like to rescue a needy corgi someday, but I'm thrilled to pieces with my purebred puppy. I'm so happy with the breeder who produced her, too! I know that there will always be dogs who need rescuing, but that shouldn't happen at the exclusion of the preservation of this magnificent breed. It isn't greed that motivates all breeders -- many corgi breeders love the personalities of these wonderful dogs. And I'm so glad!
Comment by Alice on December 28, 2008 at 1:42am
I have owned several rescue dogs and they were great dogs but our current dog was from a great breeder and I don't regret getting him. There are certain benefits to getting a dog from a breeder such as being able to know the parents background (health, disposition etc) and getting your puppy from a breeder eliminates the risk of other people who owned the dog having a negative effect on them and their behavior. Most of the rescues I've had came with certain issues due to where they came from. This is usually not the case when you raise your dog from a young pup. When it comes to certain breeds such as the Cardigan Welsh Corgi, your chances are slim to none of finding one in a shelter. I searched for a Cardigan for 5 years before choosing a responsible breeder to get him from and during that time I never saw one in a shelter. This epidemic of homeless animals is caused by human negligence, people getting a puppy and not wanting it when it grows into a dog, people buying pets on a whim like they are accessories but not being prepared to care for it for it's natural life and other such issues. Adopting an animal is a noble act and we should all do our part in supporting animal rescue, but responsible pet owners should not have to suffer for other people's stupidity and vow to never buy from a breeder if that means never owning the breed they love.
Comment by Chelsey on December 28, 2008 at 1:15am
I got both my fur kids from two different breeders who worked with me to find the traits that I wanted in my corgis. You don't always know the history of a dog when you get them from a shelter and with a dog from a breeder you can get all the info that you need on how they are raised and their parents temperment. I think its great that you rescued a corgi but its a slap in the face of people who love the corgi breed and got their dog from breeders when you go on about how breeders are greedy. Talk to any breeder on this site and you will see they are not greedy and callous, they love the breed and they have perfected it, they wont breed dog who will fail to meet the standards of the corgi. They screen their new corgi owners so that they are find for a forever home for their puppies. And most will take back any dog that they found homes for in the past so they dont end up in shelters but sometimes people are cowards and would rather send their beloved pet to the pound then to see the look of sadness on the breeders face when the let a bad owner pass their interviews. The people on this site are here to meet other corgi lovers and to ask each others opinions we help each other. Those breeders you are bad mouthing help us, the ones who are new to the breed and love them but need some help sometimes. I too am Very happy with my decision of getting my corgis from a breeder.

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