My tri color corgi puppy's name is Charlie and he is going to be 7 months old here in a week. He is the most stubborn dog in the entire world and I just don't know what to do. When he was really young, about 3 months, we had him sitting when we asked and sometimes laying down. But this was only if he got rewarded with a couple shreds of cheese, he wouldn't do it for anything else. And then he suddenly just stopped listening even when cheese was in front of him. So we sort of dropped sit for awhile because he really needed to learn to come when we called, cause he will run away from us cause he thinks every moment of the day is play time and hasn't learned when it is and isn't. So I tried simply holding a piece of cheese out in front of him and telling him to come. He would come towards me till he was right out of reaching distance. I would continue to repeat the words "Charlie, come" over and over and trying to get him to all the way to me, but he just refused. I would sit there with cheese even sitting on the ground for him to come and get and he still would just sit there in from of me waiting for me to throw it to him or something. I swear I sat with him for 20 minutes like that. I guess I just am really not understanding the level of stubbornness. I mean, seriously! The cheese was sitting there for the taking! I am just really stuck and don't know what to do. Also, he loves the chasing game and it always trying to play that with us. How do I get rid of that?!    

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Comment by Jane on April 19, 2013 at 7:50pm

I would highly recommend an obedience class. It will teach you how to train him correctly, and help him learn the commands easier. I would also google NILF (nothing in life is free) and implement that if you haven't yet. Basically you make him work for everything. No food, no treats, no going outside, etc until he completes a command for you.

Comment by Linda on April 18, 2013 at 11:21pm

Not much I can add to the already good info here.  I used the quick stepping back with more than one of my dogs in getting them to come, calling them once with a happy voice (recall)..use just a light tug on the leash.  And the others said...never chase your dog.  He thinks it's a game and could prove to be dangerous to him.  I've used the sit down and "hide" my face in my hands while still being able to see him...this usually stops them and they want to know what is going on with you so they come back.  I did have one dog that didn't work for tho.  He was a rott/shep mix and the most stubborn dog I have ever had.

Comment by Nina & Nellie on April 18, 2013 at 8:43pm

The way I've been training attention (NOT recall, but is similar and also useful) is to make yourself exciting. Make high pitched noises. Run (slowly) AWAY from your dog. Soon he should find you so exciting he'll come running to you. If he's not, keep trying. When he does run to you, praise him lots and get super excited and pet him and give him a good treat (one that he likes, he might be weird and not like cheese). If he doesn't like petting, just give him the treat and a nice touch on the chin/chest.

Also, if you find that he's not doing tricks for treats, mix up your treats. Use kibble, chicken, steak, commercial dog treats, hot dogs. When he starts doing commands reliably, don't treat him every time. Reward with a toy, a game of tug, or a walk outside. Changing the reward up makes it unpredictable to your puppy and he'll be more likely to do the command because he doesn't know if he'll get a good thing or his FAVORITE thing.

Also, everything rae said is also correct. Never chase your puppy, and don't repeat commands. It just teaches them to ignore you, or learn that "Charlie, come" 5 times means come.

Comment by Bev Levy on April 18, 2013 at 8:19pm

Never play the chasing game. It teaches the wrong things and can be very dangerous! Put a long leash or rope on him and when he is not paying attention say "Charlie come" in your happiest, party voice and immediately bring him to you and after you touch his collar give him a treat. Do this several times in a row every day. Never call him when he is unleashed until he starts coming to you. It will take some patience and repetition but he will learn to come when called. I use sit before putting the food down. If he doesn't sit after one command, hold the bowl down in front of him and lift it a little, hopefully he will sit. If not I would put your hand behind his back legs and sweep them in so he is sitting. If you are consistent he will learn that you expect to be obeyed. Puppies take alot of consistent and positive training. He is at the age where he is testing a little :)

Comment by Tami Martinez on April 18, 2013 at 8:11pm
I have heard....never tried with my two. That you can run backwards...so facing your puppy. Say come and start moving backwards. This is gets them interested and coming toward you.
Comment by rae on April 18, 2013 at 7:34pm
Comment by rae on April 18, 2013 at 7:31pm

first off, DO NOT CHASE your puppy. ever. don't do it. you're reinforcing the idea that it's ok, even fun and awesome and enjoyable for him to run away from you.  

also, you should not repeat commands. you need to say a command, like "come" or "sit" once. maybe with a hand signal if you're working on those, and then if the puppy does not exhibit the behavior you are commanding, correct the dog's position. remember, you are correcting the behavior, not the puppy.

right now, all he knows is there's some cheese and its' boring because you keep saying unknown things over and over. by repeating yourself, you're not helping the puppy correlate the command with a behavior.  you may need to start from scratch.  leash the puppy, get a treat he values in very, very small pieces.  say "charlie, come" ONCE. back up a few steps and lure him with your treat.  he should come.  if he does not, get him to do it with the leash, and say "good come!". put him in the position you want.  eventually you'll be able to repeat and get him to start coming towards you while you back up (all while leashed).  praise the puppy a lot, and reward heavily when he does not require you to correct his behavior.

if you incorporate hand signals — and dogs tend to respond more to visual cues — you can repeat the signal, but NOT the command.  if you keep saying "come, come, come" over and over again...if and when he finally does it, he has no idea that it's because of the command but just that you were making a bunch of noises and then a reward happened for some reason but oh well.

maybe try a puppy obedience class if there's one there?  a lot of what i'm writing here is from notes from class. but one thing our breeder told us that has resonated so deeply is "you permit what you promote." that is so true, with puppies. they take their cues from us, they learn from us, and we have to make sure we're setting up the puppies for success.

if he insists on chasing games, turn around (in the house or where he's safely leashed) and ignore the puppy for a count to 10 or so.  make YOUR ATTENTION be a commodity and reward.  there's an attention game that our trainer had us play with puppies, but essentially you're rewarding your dog for paying attention to you, acknowledging YOUR utterance of his name, and showing YOU that he understands you're in charge.

there's also probably tons of info in the FAQ, but also google "nothing in life is free" and "reliable recall".

you'll really want to focus on the recall as it can save your dog's life some day.

also, adolescent puppies can be a handful, so you know...fun times! good luck

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