I want to know what coat type my puppy is.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Fawn is the same as red and white; there are different shades of red, but they are all red.
I think your pup will probably be a red and white with a few odd scattered black hairs, but not enough to be a true sable. Sable usually has a funny cap of black-tipped hairs on the top of the head.
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Permalink Reply by Jane on
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Sable IMO. I would guess she will keep some of that black mask. I think it's cute though!
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Permalink Reply by Andrea on
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Sable, red and whites have a little black in them. Not that much though. Also, et your puppy checked to see if she's a DM carrier or not! Since you didn't get him from a reputable breeder he could have or carry DM. Not a fun disease!
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I do understand where you are going, but something like 50% of Pems are DM "at risk" and only about 1 or 2% get DM, so knowing whether or not they are at risk is not going to tell you the likely outcome. It's not that sort of genetic disease. Mine are from a reputable breeder and I sure as heck don't know the status of either one of them. I will cross that bridge in the unlikely case that I reach it. If there were any interventions that were known to reduce the potential of getting the disease in at risk dogs, then it might be worth finding out. Otherwise, it's worth knowing if a dog becomes symptomatic, or if you want to have your dog tested to increase the size of the data base.
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Permalink Reply by Leslie Argueta on
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I took her to the vet today and all seemed fine. They didnt bring up any sort of illness or malformation in her. She was very healthy albeit a little diarrhea. Nothing wrong with her as far I can tell. Very friendly and not shy, a healthy puppy overall. I understand that pet shops seem to bring in puppys from mills, although the one I got her from said they keep in contact with the breeder, so I'm not sure.
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It's a breed specific (or breed common) disease that can only be found via DNA test. I know thats it's not common, but thats because breeders typically keep track of which ones are carriers and not. DM is not a fun disease, and snce you got him from a pet store (so he's probably from a puppy mill, which do not breed to improve the breed and just to make a buck) then it's best to be safe than sorry. I've never seen a good corgi breeder that either doesn't test or doesn't keep track of their DM lines.
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Andrea, I don't want to turn this whole thread into a DM debate, but what you say is simply not factually true. Since about 50% of Pems are At Risk (carry both copies of the gene) and another 40% are carriers (carry one copy of the gene), there is simply no feasible way to breed away from DM within a few generations.
Because of that, many many great breeders are either not testing, OR not sharing those results with puppy people. In the meantime, the current research is looking for modifier genes, since the huge majority of At Risk dogs never develop the disease, it is likely polygenic.
Breeders who have had DM dogs are following (or should be following) a different path from those who do not have DM dogs in their lines. I have personally talked to several excellent breeders who are not testing yet (or at least not sharing what they know) because of this; breeding away in a few generations would create a huge genetic bottleneck, with only the 10% of clear dogs having to be used in every pedigree. That would be a disaster, the researches involved do NOT recommend that path, and so we wait for more research. Thankfully, the research will go faster than dog research usually does because of the close genetic connection between DM in dogs and ALS in people.
Anyway, good breeders who are responsible may or may not be testing based on their own frequency of DM in their lines, but even those who do will have to place At Risk puppies with puppy buyers in the short term in order to KEEP the clears and carriers for their own breeding programs.
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Permalink Reply by Melissa and Franklin! on
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I agree with Beth and I personally have chosen not to have Franklin tested. His breeder did not test as 4 1/2 years ago it was not a common thing to test. This is fairly new research so to say only reputable breeders test is not true at this point. I don't want to know if Frank is "at risk" because 1) there is nothing I can do about it anyway and I don't want to waste the next 6-10 years worrying he will get it and 2) very few "at risk" dogs actually get DM.
I would worry a lot more about more common genetic issues that your puppy can get from coming from a puppy mill (all pet store puppies are from puppy mills, no reputable breeder will sell a puppy to anybody but its intended forever owner) such as hip/elbow dysplasia, eye problems, heart problems, etc. Make sure to keep up with regular vet visits and keep her on a good diet and joint supplements as a precaution. She sure is a cutie!
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Permalink Reply by SJK on
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The breeder they're talking about is the mill owner. Pets stores will tell you anything to get you to buy the dog, they're salespeople after all. Sometimes the employees don't even know, they are just saying what their boss told them to say to sell the puppies.
That said she is really cute and I hope it all works out for you. :) You could get lucky and have no health problems. Just maybe if you decide to get another dog, get them from a better place?
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Hi Leslie,
Your puppy is absolutely adorable and I hope you have nothing but great experiences with her. I am glad she is healthy and it sounds like she's been socialized a bit. Please do know that most pet stores only buy from puppy mills, but they will never tell you that and always have some story about some nice breeder up the street who got sick and didn't have time to place puppies.
I hope you hang around here and share your stories. I have learned so much by coming here!
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Permalink Reply by Becky Focht on
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No matter what color she turns out to be she is really cute!!! I agree with Jane, I like the mask!
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thanks guys, I'm really interested in seeing how she'll look as an adult. puppies look different from the adults in so many ways.
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