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Comment by shelley power on July 15, 2010 at 10:30am

oh I am losin it !! IT IS NOT traverse city..
IT IS MARQUETTE!!!! DOH!
sorry Still excited to go...
OH I may try that .. but he has blown the undercoat and some top coat altogether.. whats there is healthy but holy cow all in couple days.. got all the dead coat out blowing and combing but .. I have the prof white and plush puppy.. and have heard of listerine befoe and never tried.. largely because I cant figure what is it in listerine??? HOW odd!!LOL cool water , thats an idea... stimulate some to come back in??? He has never lost this much hair!!! It was SOOOO extremely hot and humid for the better part of a full week or more and poof it started just coming out in fur storms !!
I will get some listerine today and try that .. near pet supply doesnt have isle of dog.. We havent got much to "volumize " except he hasnt lost all around mane yet.. and pants still look ok..
Well Ill do what I can but worrying about it isnt going to change anything except make me irritable so guess I am not gonna stress about it.. it will be back in great form before lake elmo...
Cindy, why you want a good reason not to go to lake elmo?? puppies coming that weekend?? whos pregnant?? what dad???
well if puppies YAY! If not sure would be nice to see ya in Lake elmo..

Comment by Cindy on July 15, 2010 at 9:41am

Coat---wash with warm water and a good cleaning shampoo-such as #1 all systems professional white, for a couple of days, blow out the dead coat. Then start misting with cool water each morning and night. I use a little listerine in the water or dilute Isle of Dog Repair - couple squirsts in a large spray bottle. Day of show, use Plush Puppy Volumizer(diluted 2-3 tsps in a spray bottle of water), work into the coat and blow out.

Good luck!

Comment by Cindy on July 15, 2010 at 9:35am

Crossing fingers that I have a good reason not to go to the Lake Elmo shows-I'm hoping that I will be excused from a friends wedding that weekend so I can whelp puppies :) Can't tell for sure yet, give us a few more weeks.

Plus since I am show chair for the Amana shows, the week before is chaos as we do the count down to it.

October--no idea at this point, pending puppies puts everything in limbo.

DM--interesting ariticles. I happen to know Dawn Gabig well too-it's the whole 6 degrees thing there.

And I agree--the current DM testing only tells you if the dog has the mutation, not if your dog will be affected by active DM. Dogs can show "at risk" and never get it. They have no idea what causes it to become "active". Unlike a simple recessive gene issue, like PRA in cardigans, you are now causing a lot of people to eliminate dogs from the gene pool that might not have the risk factors(still unknown) that would cause DM to be active.

I personally have not tested my dogs for DM and will not until they come up with the secondary test that can give you more definative information as to the DM chances in your dog. The secondary test is in the research stages and if that does work, then I will test. With no history of DM in my lines, I'm comfortable with that, other's aren't. What I don't like though is being bad mouthed because I don't test for my own personal reasons and I know there's a couple breeders out that that do that. The same breeders are wish washy on other testing and breeding practices that I don't approve of. To each his own and it should be just that.

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 5:24pm

http://anne.kleivens.com/annwn/bobtails.php
here is another really interesting article I have stumbled upon re: natural bob-tailed corgis. interesting reading....

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 1:27pm

We are going to The traverse city show labor day!! I am excited.. will miss seeing friends in Amana:( but too far for us this year:( Cindy would be fun to see you at the MN shows in last post any chance??

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 1:25pm

cindy, lake elmo MN aug 27 28 29? LB ( herding group) and AB
hutchinson MN oct 9 10 AB ?
Hutchinson looks like fairly small ( for pems anyhow) last year
but is close enough for us, and lake elmo looks like it was huge last year 25+ pems entered..
what shows are you thinking of for aug sept oct??

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 1:16pm

he appears to be in great shape otherwise:) all that swimming has paid off!!

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 1:15pm

hahaha .. notice the ole vacuum at the ready in background of this photo hahahahaha we combed with vac hose next to for a while cos open window was blowing it everywhere!! I was surprised he didnt jump off the table when I took the vac hose to him....

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 1:12pm

Well, SPunky has officially blown his coat ! despite my best efforts... to keep him cool etc, our exceedingly hot hmid weather has done him in!!HAHAHAHAAHA have spent hours getting all the dead undercoat out so as not to shed on the judges this weekend, but I doubt that much of it will come back in by the weekend:((((
We know we are not supposed ot be faulted for seasonal out of coat, but...
Oh well doesnt look too bad.. we will see.
In any case still worth it as Duluth is SUCH a FUN show and venue.. just a shame as we wait all year for this show and dang weather has to be brutal ...
preshow bath and kolesteral beginning of week and fri another reg bath and rinse before we go is the best we can do..
so here is a candid pic of monkey butt s blown coat:(

Comment by shelley power on July 14, 2010 at 12:49pm

I found this article on DM and thought it would be of interest to a lot of us corgi people: Have copied and excerpt here
the article in its entirety can be found at:
http://www.bmdca.org/health/Genetics/Degenerative_Myelopathy_Testin...

There are currently two research studies supported by the Canine Health Foundation that are pilot projects to better define the clinical, radiographic and pathologic entities that make up DM in all breeds. These studies are accepting affected dogs to be enrolled in their protocols. A separate CHF study, from which the OFA DNA test for DM was developed
To proceed with discerning the DNA associated with a disease process, as has been done in human medicine with lymphomas, it is first critical to classify the pathologic appearance, symptoms, histopathology and other characteristics of the disease process being studied.
Currently, for $65, the OFA offers a DNA test for DM that was developed at the Univ. of Missouri. This test is for a mutation of DNA that, at best, has been found to be associated with DM in one breed. They do not know if this mutation is causative for the disease in any breed. They only know it is associated with dogs diagnosed with DM in one breed. Based on the information Dawn Gabig presented in an earlier email, the numbers of samples processed for various breeds is too small to draw any conclusions other than those just mentioned.

There is no reason to spend any money on a test that offers absolutely no answers.

If you have a dog affected by symptoms commonly associated with degenerative myelopathy and your pursuit of veterinary assistance has lead your veterinarian to believe it's likely the dog has DM, then you should contact the CHF studies to try to enroll your dog in these studies. You should not have to pay to have this DNA test done to be a part of these studies. Hopefully, some BMD dog owners will agree to have necropsy samples submitted to these studies, as this is the only way definitive information will be developed regarding this syndrome. Dog owners of relatives of affected dogs eventually may be asked to submit DNA samples as part of these research projects. There should not be a charge for these DNA tests either.

For owners and breeders interested in useful information on the hereditary nature of DM, at this time financial resources of would be better spent in research than on applying the OFA Test for individual dogs. At this time there is simply not enough known about this mutation to make any breeding decisions or assumptions of susceptibility for acquiring DM based on the test being offered by the OFA.

I recognize the devastating impact that DM has on both the animal and its family. Unfortunately there is nothing available that has any positive impact on this process nor is there anything in the immediate future. Owners of dogs affected with DM need to keep in mind that although symptoms may have improved, temporarily, by various treatments the disease process itself is progressing. These dogs are an important part of defining the DM disease(s) involved. I implore any owner of an affected dog to contact the researchers to participate in research studies.

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