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Comment by vicky hyde on January 11, 2011 at 4:20pm

i find it fun to watch them go thru the growing stages. it's like " a box of chocolates" that sounds good too.

Comment by vicky hyde on January 11, 2011 at 4:18pm

jack had no legs and as sandy can tell you, he is low on leg. joker had he chest at the right age. maybe you can answer this- when joker was a wee lad, he had the most gorgous eyeliner  for a puppy. but, he has lost some of that and i don't know why or what would cause that. i don't think i've ever seen that happen before. any ideas?it's just a little on each eye. also, has anyone ever seen a colic that went up the top of the muzzle? he has one of those also. ok,ok, i know he's jack's boy, but neither parent has this. it's rather cute. it runs from his nose to just about the eyes, right on top of the muzzle. almost looks like a little mohawk. now, you mentioned brains. jack is still waiting and he's almost 11 yrs. i can guarentee that his body grew much faster than the brain. but i couldn't love him more. well, i'm off to sniff supper. thru an angus roast w/ veggies in the slow-cooker. have 2 hours to wait. the corgi noses have been up in the air, si they know there are going to be some carrots and celery for them. maybe a little beef roast also. you all take care and stay warm.

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 4:15pm

Considering how ugly Chipster's siblings looked this last month, I could have petted them all!  Walt went short in the body, Charlie's ears grew ten times the size of his head  and it appeared he was top heavy from them and fall forward.  Luna was so uncoordinated that she went to jump in a chair and totally forgot how her legs worked.

But once again, in the blink of an eye, all the parts grew back together and look pretty darn good. Though I fear the Walt will never grow into his paws--the size of dinner plates.  He looks and acts so much like his Grandpa Wally, that it makes me miss the lug all that much more.

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 4:06pm

Here's a little tidbit I've learned along the way.  Dogs don't "drop" more chest then when they have at 7 or 8 weeks.  What is there is there as far as the structural aspect of the chest construction.  What does happen as they age is the substance part appears-muscle fills in and develops, or in some cases, fat.  But if a dog doesn't have the fill of chest at 7-8 weeks, then it never will.  What can change, say in bitches, is that they will spring more rib if the litter they carry is help up under the rib cage.  But that won't affect the underlying shoulder or front structure. 

As a dog matures, they will fill in with muscle in the parts that are week.  Elbow tuck behind the rib in cardigans can look to change with just a look, but if you put your hands on and feel the muscle vs bone, then you'll find what gets hidden by the overlay of tissue.

Legs, yes those can and do grow, but only in proportion to what they were as a pup.  Heads-the ears will start to look more in proportion when the "apple" between then starts to flatten out more.  Frank is a perfect example of that-his head is so broad now compared to when he was 6 mos old.

Tails-in cardigans, I have found that puppies' tail sets do tend to drop slightly up till about 9 or 10 weeks, but after that, what you see if what you get.  And remember a cardigan set is different then the pem-which comes straight off the back.  High carriage is another story as I see many puppies with correct sets, carry their tails high to balance themselves until their bodies catch up with their brains. In some that never happens - heehee

Comment by vicky hyde on January 11, 2011 at 3:03pm

they are all looking so nice. can't get over those ears! pretty, pretty expression. and i agree with your thinkong on the evaluating plan. although, depending on the breed, 6 months can be soo horrible for some. i like the 6 month to 2 year stage when we can blame everything on their age. haha. i also have the slow-maturing thing with mine. it took jack for ever to grow legs. he was a little fat, roly-poly adn then one day i got up and there he was, in all his glory. he never went thru the "UGLIES" sandy can correct me on this, but i think joker was about 1 1/2 yrs. before his chest dropped. he's a little over 2 yrs. now and i believe he is starting to get a little broader across the shoulder area and his chest is still changing. he's doing things that i never say jack do in the growth area and i have had jack since the day he was born. looks like my first shows will be in ap0ril. we have a weekend down in fond-du-lac, i believe the 3rd weekend of april. that's driving distance for me if i decide to go. i believe the one day, mr. brian meyer is judging and if i'm not mistaken, mrs. winnie is judging. the winnie's are collie people, or at least they were eons ago. very nice people from what i remember also. looking forward to the youngster getting out some this year. well, long enough. take care

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 12:14pm

And last but not least, the Chipster!  Shelley sent these to me this morning.  Wish I could make them smaller so they didn't take up so much room-ugh.

Anyway, the one comment is that they are taking after both parents at this age.  I'll see if I can find an Abbey photo-she was long and lean.  I've been told and hold true to this-you evaluate at 7-8 weeks then don't look at them again until 6 mos old.  Reevaluate then.  BUT, what I do like to do is note the structural changes that occur during the "off" time and that will give me an indication based on the notes I have from the parent's at this age and their respective litter, on how they will continue to grow and mature. 

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE CHIPSTER IN THE RING!!!!

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 12:03pm

This is the brawn-Tannet(formerly Connor).  Tends to get in trouble then Annie has to figure out how to fix it.

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 11:58am

This is Annie, formerly the opera singer known as Beverly!  Supposedly the brains of the two pups they have-heehee

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 11:54am

Updates on the Dirty Dozen!  Few new photos - aren't they still super cute?

 

And this is Gryffin(formerly known as Adolph)

Comment by Cindy on January 11, 2011 at 11:44am

yeap, we have more of those "albino brain mites" up here now.  Actually wanted it as the icey crap that was hanging around was a bugger on the dogs and horses.

 

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