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Permalink Reply by Melissa and Franklin! on April 25, 2011 at 11:48pm

honestly if you spay/neuter everyone you wouldn't just be helping your current dogs but you will be preventing future dogs from ending up homeless and in pounds/shelters. You shouldn't even be considering bringing another dog into your home until you sort out the issues your current dogs are having. Also, two un-neutered males in one house is certainly going to lead to fighting. Really think strongly about the decision to breed before bringing more puppies into this world. My recommendation is spay/neuter all your dogs, leave breeding to the professionals, seek the help from a trainer to deal with your current dogs (likely just spaying and neutering will help with the problem), and THEN start to consider bringing in a 3rd dog.

Permalink Reply by Danny and Kate on April 25, 2011 at 11:51pm

this has been the dilemma with our family.

Permalink Reply by Danny and Kate on April 26, 2011 at 12:20am

i should also say that we were confused about the spaying/neutering because our vet told us that it would not change their temperment.

Permalink Reply by justine moeller on April 26, 2011 at 12:59am

Their personality may not change but their temperament will likely settle down a bit. Spay/neuter all animals in your house, including the new rescue and it will save you a lot of future problems. Please do not breed.

Perhaps you can seek a trainer in your area to work with your female dog since it sounds like she is creating some problems. I would wait however until after she is spayed because you may notice some change. Did you vet discourage you from having them fixed??

Congrats on welcoming a new corgi to your home!

Permalink Reply by Danny and Kate on April 26, 2011 at 12:53pm

I (Kate) have wanted the dogs spay/neutered all the time.  But everyone else has wanted to do the breeding.  We have done breeding with Yorkies in the past so it's not a new concept on how to do it.

 

However, I must say that yes, our vet discouraged us from having them fixed.  She told us after meeting the dogs that they seem very sweet & cared for so spaying/neutering them wouldn't change them.  She actually encouraged insemination.  

Permalink Reply by Chris West on April 26, 2011 at 9:42am

I have 2 recommendations:  obedience classes and spay/neuter.  Please leave breeding to professional breeders.  Obedience classes will help fix a lot of your issues.  I would not bring in another dog if you don't have control over the 2 you have (if they aren't listening to you ALL the time, you do not have control).  I think it is wonderful you want to expand your corgi family, but it will be better for everyone if you are ready before you do!

Permalink Reply by Sam Tsang on April 26, 2011 at 9:46am

Hi Danny and Kate,

 

It is not a good idea for you to dive into this, not because of your dogs are not fixed, but you are not ready and capable to handle a 3rd at this time. With some training and practice, you can make your home available to a future rescue.

 

1. Having a 3rd changes your existing dynamics, it is nothing like having 2, unless the 3rd corgi is extremely submissive, you will have a lot of work cut out for you. Intact animals are not the problem, inexperience owners are.

 

2. The best thing for a shelter dog is having a stable long term loving forever home.

 

Extra tips are in the FAQ and old discussions, remember bring in a 3rd dog will triple your food, vet bills, rx cost, vaccine cost, even walking the 3 dogs will be challenging...etc. You can always inform the rescues in your area about this corgi. 

 

Permalink Reply by Beth on April 26, 2011 at 10:15am

Having two intact males around an intact female is a recipe for fighting over the right to access to the female, and is something best left to experienced breeders who are used to multi-dog homes.

 

One male and one female is usually the easiest combo to handle.  If you are having troubles I would strongly discourage adding a third til you get the situation straightened out and both existing dogs are happy and relaxed.   I would also get them both fixed, or at least the girl.  What would you do if she had a litter?  How would you handle problems?  What if she rejected them or otherwise could not nurse them?  How will you deal with the pups once they leave the whelping box?  An intact female is also prone to health problems that spaying will resolve.

Permalink Reply by Danny and Kate on April 26, 2011 at 12:54pm

Thank you everyone for your input!  You have definitely opened the eyes to our family because everyone has a different view on this.  We have decided NOT to get the rescue dog.  Spaying/neutering is still a big debate.

 

Any resources on the subject are welcome though.

Permalink Reply by Chris West on April 26, 2011 at 1:13pm

Honestly, I have NEVER seen a recommendation to not have a dog fixed.  I would seriously be wondering about the capabilities of my vet if they were recommending that I leave my dogs intact.  None of the articles I looked up said no, you should not spay or neuter.  Another thing you could try is calling other vets in your area and asking their opinions.  Many vet offices will give you educational advice over the phone free of charge.  Articles about why you should spay or neuter your dog:

Why Should I Spay or Neuter My Dog?

 

Spay or Neuter Your Pet

 

Should I spay or neuter my dog?

 

Should you spay or neuter a pet?

Permalink Reply by Danny and Kate on April 26, 2011 at 1:30pm

Thank you!  I will make sure my family reads these!

 

I was on the Dog Whisperer's site and he mentioned that if people choose to breed to make sure to do it before both dogs are 3 years old and then have them spayed/neutered.

Permalink Reply by Jennifer Markley on April 26, 2011 at 2:54pm

I feel really strong on this issue.  The ONLY reason you should breed is because you care about the breed itself, and wish to better it.  And then, it is something that should be done with great responsibility, and great research.  The good breeders will spend many hours researching the best mate for the breed.  It usually doesn't include the other member of the household.  They will spend much money to fly in either the dog itself or the sperm to mate from other parts of the country.  And litters are done maybe once, at the most, twice a year.  And it's not done for money--many actually take a hit on each litter by the time it's all done.  Please, only do it if you are going to be a RESPONSIBLE breeder.  There are too many unwanted dogs put to death in this world, from unresponsible breeders, or people that just refuse to spay/neuter their pets.  I agree that it won't change the dogs tempermant, but it will change their aggression, and tendencies to wander.  It's really the responsible thing to do.

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