Are they all this stubborn?
Well, my Ella is soooo stubborn! She will even give me dirty looks. She absolutely loves being outside and especially in the snow! I take her for walks, I play with her outside and inside but she never wants to come back in. Other than resorting to "dragging" her back in the house, I've had to actually pick her up and carry her in. It's to the point now that all I have to say is "ok...I'm going to pick you up" and that gets her moving towards the house but only a few feet and then we repeat this process. I have a small choke collar and have tried it. It seems to work somewhat better but I don't like using it because I feel like I could hurt her little trachea. Are all corgis stubborn like this? Sheesh. I'm starting to dread taking her out just because she is so stubborn about coming back in. My shepherd goes out, does his duty and comes right back in for me. Just wondering how many other corgi owners go through this.
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Permalink Reply by Lemmy Winks on
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Answer : Yes. However by picking her up and carrying her, and having to "repeat" the process over and over to get her in the house....she's winning lol. Corgis are not little dogs with little brains. They're big dogs on short legs and with velociraptor brains haha.
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Permalink Reply by Cindy Lincoln on
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I suppose you're right! I guess I have to practice my "alpha" skills some more, lol.
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Permalink Reply by Laura and Tommy Jefferson on
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Hi Cindy, Tommy can be equally stubborn about coming inside. Sometimes I resort to saying things such as "oh Tommy, so and so (insert name of someone he likes) is here!" Or "look! There's a kitty in the house!" Lies. All lies! I've even gone and rang the doorbell so he thinks a visitor has arrived :)
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LOL. Glad to know I'm not the only one with the spoiled little one! We don't have a doorbell but maybe we should.
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Permalink Reply by Becky S on
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I never thought of the doorbell! Brody is my stubborn one, usually he will come in for "cookie" and make the lid on the jar clang. But there's a new puppy at the house behind us that they can't see because of the fence, but can hear and smell so of course that triumphs a cookie. But the door bell..... I have also gone out with his choke chain on a leash, the first couple of times he rolled over, then he figured out it's just easier to come in. Fortunately Lilly likes to be by us more than anything.
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Permalink Reply by Heather & Ellie on
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Sounds just like my Ellie. I actually do resort to dragging her if she won't move. Once she figured out it was easier to just walk (not to mention life is more fun if I'm in a better mood), she started following me inside without a problem. Sometimes she'll press her luck and stand on the stoop and stare at me like she has no idea what "inside" means, but one tug on the leash and she runs right in now.
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Thanks for replying. I guess there is still hope! I laughed when you said you actually do resort to dragging her if she won't move! I can visualize that. When I start pulling Ella, she plants her feet in the ground and gives me a dirty look. The vet had it right when he said she was a drama queen!
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Yes, drama queens! That sums up Ellie perfectly.
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Permalink Reply by Anna Morelli on
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The word "stubborn" generally means someone else is not willing to go along with OUR agenda and, in dog training, is really a cop-out, in the sense that it keeps us from seeing the real problem and reach for the right solution. Dogs from the working breeds are usually pretty intelligent and independent minded. They will cooperate nicely with the proper training, but the downside is that they will also respond more quickly to training mistakes, which you will pay for in spades. This makes it particularly difficult for first time dog owners, or people not used to this type of dog.
Once the undesired behavior is established, harsh methods will only compound the problem and tricking the dog will only work in the short run, actually creating distrust and a smarter dog that can figure out each new trick :-)
I don't know how Ella got to this point, nor do I know if she is being let out in an enclosed area, or not. What I do know is that she needs to be retrained and not given the opportunity to ignore you, which means she is on leash, or on a long line, until she has learned the wanted response. Make it happy when you start towards the house ( Let's go get a treat" for instance and only give the treat - a good one! - after you're in, have taken off the leash and gone in the kitchen.) If you've not taken obedience classes, general training with distractions of other people and dogs, will also be beneficial. You can find many posts here on how to get a reliable recall, which is your first step. If you've been leaving Ella out in an open unfenced area, you may have to rethink this approach as not workable.
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Thanks for your reply. I definately need to work on training her. When she sees people, cars, dogs, she pulls really hard to get to them. I know she is really smart. She learns things very fast. I don't have a fenced in area so I don't take her out unless she's on a leash. She escaped one time and ran off. I was out of town and my husband said she was way down at the end of our subdivision. Luckily, she ended up coming back and he got her but it could've ended very differently. I do try and make going inside fun by offering to give her a treat or saying things excitedly. She will respond for a little bit but then stop short of actually going in. Can she go to obedience class even though she is a year and a half old? I took my shepherd when he was a puppy and they were all puppies in there.
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Permalink Reply by Nancy Chapman on
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I would guess that your little girl just wants a bit of freedom. Corgis love to frapp. I would suggest that you make providing a safe enclosed area a priority. She likely feels to restricted in the house and needs time to just play. Training will certianly help, but it won't take the place of regular exercise and not just short potty breaks.
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Cindy, Ella is still really young, an obedience class or two will focus both of you in the right direction. Bolting out the door can be very dangerous, she need to learn she never goes out without the leash on and the people in your house have to learn to tell her "stay there" before they go out without her. I have 3 dogs and I have taught them they only go out if I use their individual name. They know the meaning of "only" followed by the name of the one that goes out. If I open a door, no one tries to go out, unless I call them and say their name. They know " see you later" means I'll be gone for awhile. Dogs are really smart and worth training in the way that works best for your particular situation. You just need a little help with it.
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