So my Momo, a male pem corgi has hit what i'd like to call it "preteen pup" age. LOL. He's a bit over 6 months getting near 7 months.
He back talks (grumble barks and/or whiny barks) a lot to my husband, and I truly think it's becuz my husband hasn't fully establish "alpha" status with Momo. Though NOW my husband disciplines Momo for bad and undesired behaviors when i'm not around. Momo knows that half the stuff he does with his human daddy, he would NEVER get away with me around.
Examples are:
When i am away (shopping or working or having girls night), my husband tends to stick Momo in the crate or kitchen cuz Momo will not leave him alone and follows him into his office and goes into everything.
But when I'm home, Momo knows i would NEVER EVER allow him into his dad's office cuz there are a lot of electronics and paper work that are important so i don't want to risk Momo getting into trouble or destroying important paperwork.
Momo also knows that i do not enjoy having him "space invade" and follow me around or on my heels as i say it to him via words and actions (hopefully the young puppy is slowly understanding more human speech), "if you get smacked by my heel or stepped on, it's your fault puppy. I'm the boss and i will walk where i want to walk." Momo has learned to listen to me and avoid me feet when i'm moving around.
Tho i have heard his first back talk to me yesterday afternoon, when i came home from work WITH a headache. Momo usually plays with me, when we are home during the weekend but i was not feeling very well, but he wanted OUT of his kitchen area to play with me, he barked to be let out. But not feeling well so in a loud tensed voice, i told him "enough! SHHH!"
And momo actually grumbled at me! LOL... i cracked up... but it sure was funny to hear it for myself.
LOL... as loving as I am with my puppy, i am also very very strict and make sure the rules are followed as I teach the desired behaviors to him.
So does anyone else have overly vocal and or back talking puppies or grown dogs?? Do you find it as amuse as i do??
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OH YES! I agree!
My momo is a good boy, for the most part when i'm around, but as the saying goes, "when the cats away, the mice will play." LOL...
It doesn't help that my husband sometimes gets right down with him and is a puppy playmate with Momo and i think Momo sees my husband as half playmate and half 'servant'.... LOL. My husband punks momo and momo punks back my husband.
It takes my husband quite a while to get momo to listen to him, be it to get him to eat or sit still to take him out for his walk or potty time.
It's gotten much better now, but momo still pushes his limits with his daddy. LOL... I think his daddy is just to lenient with him cuz Momo puts on the cute act and it melts the heart of my big "not-so-tough" husband who is all "awww momo! Ur soo cute!"
But daddy sure is learning now, that letting momo have his ways will not be a good turnout for him, when i'm gone or away. LOL.
LOL...
I would not agree on stepping on a puppy all the time, but for the couple of times that it has happened, he nows knows, to avoid the feet when i'm going somewhere.
Momo was a horrible lil attacking monster when we first got him, towards me! But after I found a good online trainer, who i've learned a LOT of useful tactics on dog training, it changed between momo and myself and momo has NOT attack me since then. It took about 3 days for the changes to fully take on after training him and contiueing with the training.
I know i have established my alpha status with him, to a point where if he is doing something that i do not like, and SNAP at him, he knows snap means "NO, YOU BETTER STOP IT". And he will stop whatever it is he is doing that i do not like him doing, be it barking, chewing on a boxes or his tags, or looking for trouble to make in the shoes box/closet or if that does not 'scare him' into being a 'good boy' all i need to say is "timeout?" and that will immediately stop any bad behavior cuz he HATES HATES HATES being in timeout in a different room away from me and my husband.
My husband has had dogs in teh past, but they raised them old school, which means smacks and overly dominating behaviors... but of course he was young, so it was his parents who took care of the training. MOMO is my first dog ever, and he wasn't sure if my way of 'training' would be useful... so he has left me to be in charge of training momo and in the end, my way has worked magic. LOL...
Momo will occasionally accidently nip my hands or fingers if he and i are playing tug-o-war, and he'll know he did wrong cuz he'll stop going for the toy and lay down on the ground until i invite him to play with me again.
Or if he growls at me while i take away something that he's not to be playing with, he knows he'll end up in timeout crate or pinned-timeout which is him laying on his side (cesar milian teaching) until i give him his cue word to get up.
I have no worries about where i stand in momo's eyes... he knows who i am, and he knows he'll never be allowed to do as he pleases with me around. Not that i'm being mean to him... but I know there has to be strong leadership in the household and doing things my husband's old school way did not work with momo (i admit i did smack momo's nose when he first started attacking me, and everyone else around me agreed (who OWNED DOGS) told me to smack the nose and it will stop bad biting behaviors-- which it did NOT, it only made him more aggressive-- SO i don't agree with hitting a dog's nose to stop a bad behavior at all), compared to my own way of training.
i learned to change his behavior so much and worked SOOO well that my families are alll in love with the EXTREMELY well behaved CORGI PUPPY dog (and not to boost sooo much over my own puppy -- but probably the ONLY well behaved dog out of all the dogs in my extended families included)... even my parents who don't like dogs, LOVE him and calls me often to bring him over to see them and they praise him sooo much for being soo good and well behaved (and sometimes better behaved than human kids that they know) LOL.
i KNOW the way i've trained momo works well, cuz my cousin has asked me to 'retrain' her family dog who was a horrible brat and would not listen to anyone, but after having her with my lil family of my husband and momo for a week, she has pretty much changed and become an awesome wellbehaved dog! Tho it's gonna take time for her to fully change from her old lifestyle with them... IF THEY keep up with what i've taught them and her, she should become that wonderful dog they dreamed off.
Now if only my husband will stop melting at momo's cute acts and be TOUGH on momo and make sure the puppy does not cross his boundries with Daddy of the House. LOL.
The back talking is a teenaged thing. Jack would back-talk me and what I'd do is stand still, with my arms across my chest and looking at him (a very domineering posture for a dog). He would go so far as to start to frap, barking and grumbling. After a bit (thirty seconds? a minute?) he'd come and sit at my feet and then I'd repeat my request and he'd comply. So it depends on what you are asking him to do, and it depends on your dog. Basically you want to do something that 1) gets the point across that back-talking won't get him anywhere, but 2) does not actively escalate the situation; you do NOT want a full-blown fight on your hand.
And yes, it cracked me up every time. However, as an adult if he blows me off it's not so funny. Once he was playing with the other dogs off-leash and went barging up to a shy on-leash dog. Well, that is a big no-no; if my dogs won't call off a leashed dog then their off-leash privileges must be revoked. I apologized up the wazoo to the other dog owner, hauled Jack well away from the other dogs, asked him to "down".... and he turned his head and ignored me. Moved him further away, asked for a down, got the same response. Took him out of sight of the other dogs (he's a dominant dog and doesn't like to down in front of other dogs since it's a submissive posture) and he still blew me off. So I left our other Corgi with my husband, took Jack back home (across the street) without his walk, and then without a word turned around and left and proceeded to go for a nice looonnnng walk with my husband and Maddie (who was horrified because she thought we lost Jack).
Well, when we got back home I leashed Jack and took him back to the park, and you better believe he did the nicest downs you ever saw. I threw sticks for him and he had to down every time before he got the stick. No blowing me off this time! So no matter how well you establish yourself as leaders, Corgis will sometimes blow you off or back-talk because they are independent dogs and when they do that, you just sort of need to tighten up the ship but mix it in with something fun for the dog; as a working breed they will tune you out if you seem unreasonable.
I have also basically used the "if you are underfoot and get stepped on, it's your own fault" approach. I wouldn't do it with a tiny toy breed, but otherwise it gets the point across.
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