Collar and leash training our Corgi Puppy
Our Corgi JP is 11 weeks old. She is doing great with Potty training, waiting paitentley to be feed and fetching. She already sits on command and knows "ouch when she plays to rough with us. But....we introduced the collar about a week ago and she HATES it! She acts like it weighs a ton and will only come to us after much calling her. She will not even walk upright and does this coyote crawl to you. She will not fetch her ball or chase you with this collar on. We started with the small thin nylon type and it weighs nothing. She does the usual scractching her neck thing and that is to be expected. It is not to tight or to loose. As soon as you take it off she is back to her usual self, happy go lucky and chases the cat:) She sleeps in her crate at night so I do take it off at night and it goes right back on in the am. How long does it usually take and should I switch to a harness? Our other dog(a terrier mix) never had a problem with the collar or leash. She walked on the leash perfect from day one. This girl has me stumped! LOL!! I know that when she is older she could be pulling us with the leash and not behave very good on it if not trained properly.( we know a corgi who is horrible on leash). We take our dogs everywhere and on vacation. So it is very important that she is leashed trained properly! If anyone has advise i would love to hear it!!!
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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on
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When I first went to classes with Sparty he yelped as if the training collar was killing him. Even though I did not jerk on him. I stopped to check it out and the instructor came over to inquire about our stop. I said "it must be hurting him he cried out". She said "well he is training you really well isn't he!" If the collar is light, fits right and you are not pulling on her just keep going and stop once in a while with a treat. Frequently at first. As puppies, I some times let them lead me around. She is asserting herself which is a very "corgi" thing to do and may just need you to show her that you get to decide stuff. Sparty has always been my "stinker" but he is very smart and once he is convinced he is not in charge does very well. All my dogs love the leash because it means an outing. She will figure out that soon if you persist! 11 weeks is still pretty young for anything but rather aimless meandering on walks. She will learn to enjoy it!
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Permalink Reply by Carla on
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If the collar really is quite light, and your sure it's not too tight, then I'd wager a guess that's she's just being a little stinker. Personally, I would just wait her out - she can't mope about it forever, and eventually will get bored of moping and want something else to do. If you lay the groundwork now that you're not going to give in (and let them train you, as Bev described above) you won't regret it. If you give in and take it off her, she’ll think she can get away with it and make it more difficult to wear later in life when you really need her to (like on walks, to the vets office, etc).
The first time I put winter booties on Casey (inside to test them out) she stormed into her crate and pouted for a good 10 minutes. I took out her favourite toy (a squeaky rubber chicken on a string) and played with it loudly about 10 feet from her crate, having a good o'l time by myself. She looked up in interest, but absolutely REFUSED to come out of the crate. She just gave me the stink eye and heaved a heavy *sigh.*
After 2 or 3 times she realized that the booties weren't going away (I live in AB, Canada, where winters are cold and puppy feet freeze) and it was either pout for the rest of the winter, or suck it up and get over it. She chose to suck it up.
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Just to add a personal anecdote about waiting them out:
Even after Casey "got over" wearing the booties, for whatever reason she detested sitting down in them. This is unfortunate, because we have very strict "puppy's gotta sit at the door" and "puppy's gotta sit at the backyard gate" before going out rules. WELL....the first time we went out, she and I stood at the back door, all ready to go (toque, mitts, winter coat, winter boots, leash on) waiting for her to sit down before we go out. It took about 3-4 minutes of the two of us standing there doing nothing for her to finally sit down for us to go outside. Of course you know what's coming next - we got to the back gate and now somebody REALLY doesn't want to sit down. Now we're both standing outside in -20 degree weather (Celsius, that is, so I guess about -5 Fahrenheit?) freezing our buns off. We stood out there in the pitch black backyard, freezing cold, with my hand on the gate door, just waiting for her to sit her bum down. We easily stood there for 10 minutes until finally she sat.
Next night, we went out, same time, same temperature, same booties, same routine (we always do the same routine) and guess how long it took her to sit her ass down? About 5 seconds. I looked at her, put my hand on the gate door (which is her cue to sit down) and she looked back at me for about 3 seconds, considering her next move, then sat her ass down. Of course I made a big scene about how great she was and how fabulous that sit was and such, and I never had a problem with her sitting in the booties again. It's an unfortunate circumstance for Casey, that she got stuck with an owner more stubborn than she, lol.
Being consistent and waiting them out at the beginning will make your life so much easier in the end. Then they understand what is expected of them, and what they can expect from you, and there’s no confusion or messing around.
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Permalink Reply by LISA & JP on
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That is a great story!! I believe that I have a very stubborn Corgi on my hands. We live in the middle of California so I am fortunate enough to have pretty good weather year round:) Oh and today my son called me at work in a frantic because he could not find her. He looked in all of her usual nap places and she was nowhere to be found. he finally finds her in her crate sound asleep. She has never gone into her crate by heself and has to be put in. Mind you she hardly fusses when she is in there but she have yet to go in there on her own. She is gonna give me a heartattack at 37yrs old!! LOL!!
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ok so it is comfirmed that she is just stubborn!:) That is good to know and I can hold out longer than she can! LOL! Thanks for the help!!!
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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I have an idea that's a bit counter-intuitive, but it might work. Here's what I might try.
If you have a fenced yard and can take her out for a few days without a collar on, I'd let her come to associate the collar with only good things for a few days. I'd leave it off of her much of the time, then I'd put it on her only for feeding and other nice things, and take it off. So I would, say, put collar on calmly, give her breakfast, take collar off. Put collar on, give belly rubs, take collar off. Put collar on, give a nice treat, take collar off. Put collar on, make big fussings over her, take collar off.
She may very well just be stubborn, but some dogs find collars/ leashes truly alarming and annoying, and I'd worry that if you put it on and leave it on and she is not improving, she'll just hate it more and more. Maybe by making her think "the thing goes on, something nice happens, and two minutes later it comes right back off. So, what's the big deal?" She'll learn to ignore it.
I would also totally ignore any fearful behavior on her part, like crawling or pouting, and just act like nothing is up.
This isn't something I've tried myself, so I can't say if it works or not! :-) But if leaving it on regularly for a couple days hasn't improved her outlook, I'd try a different route.
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I am going to try and leave collar on 24/7 till sunday and see what happens. If there is no improvement than I may try this! Thank you!
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Permalink Reply by Nicola Porter on
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Oh yes these corgis are stubborn.
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Permalink Reply by Krissy C. on
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Mira fought tooth and nail against her (very light) collar and leash for the first two weeks. (I put it on her 2 hours after she got home at 9 weeks old) She's now 3 months, today, and doing just fine. She realized one day that I didn't CARE that she was throwing a tantrum. I knew the collar fit, I knew the leash was a good baby puppy size, and I wasn't torturing her. Occasionally she will still twist her head around as I try to connect the leash, but that's all.
Also, commenting on another topic you brought up in the comment thread: Mira went into her kennel willingly for the first time this past Wednesday.
I don't take my eyes off her. (She's a speed-squatter!!) So when I brought her in from outside, she ran past me faster than normal. I put my older dog in his kennel, took .2 seconds cause he loves his kennel, and then turned around to grab Mira. She was GONE. Called her, no reply. Squeeked a toy, NOTHING. I was mildly panicked by this point. Granted only about 6 seconds had passed but I was still really worried. I happened to glance into her kennel as I passed it and there she was.. with an expression that said "Geez mom, this is where you were going to put me anyways!" haha the little bugger. >./body>
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Took her for a walk this am with the other dog and she did great. I was actually shocked to see her do so well. Of course she plays follow th leader with our other dog but hey it worked!!l lol!
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Permalink Reply by Betts on
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I've always had a new collar waiting for each new puppy, and put it on first thing. Maybe because the whole day is so overwhelming for them, I've not had a single puppy protest (5 in my lifetime) and so I've never had a collar issue. Walking and the leash have not always been as easy, but if you've got an older good walker, then the puppy usually does play follow the leader quite well, as mentioned above. If not, it takes a lot more time and work.
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