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Permalink Reply by Amanda on May 31, 2009 at 1:03pm

WOW. Well congrats on the decision (almost?) to get a corgi, I don't think you'll regret it. Some corgis are smaller than the breed standard, some are bigger, without necessarily being fat or thin, it's just the way they're built. The parents of the dog will tell you a lot about how big the puppy will grow up to be. I don't like to take temperament of parents into account because I believe it's all in how you raise a dog. I don't know that I'd take a pup from two extremely aggressive and mean parents, but I don't think the temperament is necessarily determined by genetics. Anyway, what does the pup's mother look like? Is she normal size (25-28 pounds, males are between 25-30ish)? If she's normal, I really couldn't tell you what the outcome might be, but I know if you've got two huge parents, you'll probably end up with a huge dog.

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Permalink Reply by Sky and Lyla on May 31, 2009 at 1:17pm

Either a male or a female puppy has the likelihood of being big, there is no way to know and sex doesn't make a difference. However, my concern would be that this breeder is not breeding according to the standard. If she is blatantly disregarding the breed standard are there other questionable breeding practices going on? Not that dogs outside of the standard don't happen, because it does, but a reputable breeder would not breed those dogs. If I were you, I would seriously investigate this breeder before deciding to buy from her. Good luck!

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Permalink Reply by Shippo & Koga Corgis on May 31, 2009 at 3:00pm

I would not purchase a pup from a breeder who is breeding dogs WAYYYY over the standard for weight. Do you have a picture of this "blown-up" corgi? Usually when I hear "he's not fat, just big," the corgi is fat lol... so I am just curious.

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Permalink Reply by DR, Nala & Simon on May 31, 2009 at 7:12pm

Not to be the "party-pooper" here, but, I think you should put a hold in your decision. First, check with another breeder. You might find one that breeds within the standards. Second, if your family members are "slightly" scared of large dogs, they could be scared also of medium dogs. Some corgis, can weight 25-30 pounds, and they have the attitude of a large dog. I wouldn't bring any size dog to the house until all the members are comfortable and want to participate in sharing the dog's life span. I am sure that they will love the dog, but everybody needs to get over their fears. It can be transmitted to the dog, and this is where some issues start to develop. Also that a family member has a fear for the dog, is a very common situation, for a dog to end in a shelter. Not trying to offend, just my opinion. Wish you the best luck.

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Permalink Reply by Geri & Sidney on May 31, 2009 at 7:36pm

For those of us NOT on the metric system, 20 kilos is about 44 pounds!

If you don't want a big dog, you might want to choose another breeder. This is WAY too heavy for a corgi and they could have serious health problems carrying around all that weight!

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Permalink Reply by Becky on May 31, 2009 at 8:20pm

My opinion is that the dog is simply overfed and not exercised enough.. 44 pounds is obese for a corgi. Could be the owner is overfeeding and not walking enough as well. Would be curious to see what the dog is being fed every day. I have seen a lot of overweight corgis and unfortunately, that is what people think they are suppose to look like. There is a huge difference between breed standard and being obese. Easy to overfeed them and being so short, that is sooo unhealthy. It can also be genetic but with proper diet and exercise could very well be monitored. Good luck to you.

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Permalink Reply by Ray on June 1, 2009 at 9:07am

Well I returned to see Sam and his little puppies again and found out he's actually 18 kilos, even though it's not a huge difference. He's six years old and by my opinion, he's slightly fat but definitely not overweight from what I can tell. He's a good dog with good behavior also since he didn't bark on me but when he jumped onto me, it was like carrying a sofa! The breeder has around 5 corgis, and all are very happy and healthy. The mom wasn't overweight and was a relatively normal size (13kg ish) so I'm still not sure about the puppies. Sam is a great dog though even if he is slightly on the large side :)

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Permalink Reply by Ray on June 1, 2009 at 10:41am

By the way, the pictures are of the Dad, not the puppies... Although you could probably tell

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Permalink Reply by Sam on June 1, 2009 at 11:11am

If you are comfortable with the temperment of the parents but want one on the smaller side you could always pick what appeared to be the runt of the litter or simply go with a female as they should be smaller. My Ein is a slightly larger corgi as well weighing in at 32lb.

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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on June 1, 2009 at 9:56am

Certainly if one or both parents are big you have a good chance of getting a big one. If you are ok with that, great. But be sure to be rsponsible with your feeding and measure the food so you don't overfeed.

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Permalink Reply by Ann B., Scout and Summer on June 1, 2009 at 1:34pm

Well, some corgis are just larger. My Scout weighs about 35 lbs. And he is not fat--see his pictures! Our vet says he is just right, but he is heavier than his breeder keeps her dogs (for show). His dad was fairly large, but a American/Canadian champion. Actually, our breeder thinks that many breeders are breeding corgis too small, with too short legs. She likes more "leg" on her dogs because many of hers do herding. I think Scout is probably a bit larger than the breed standard as far as height and length, but he is not a show dog. We had a female corgi previously, and she was quite a bit smaller--the females usually are.

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