In the mail today, was an envelope from my Dad, so I anxiously opened it to see what it could be, as I wasn't expecting anything from him.  It was a clipping of a newspaper article (advice column) about a 1 year old corgi who barks for 5 straight minutes when his wife comes home. 

 

I wonder what my Dad is trying to say, this article comes after we spent the weekend in Saugatuck with him and some other family members.  I think the article was more helpful to him than me!  I already know what to do, lol.  

 

Lance can bark and carry on, and on and on, even if you ignore him, like you are suppose to do.  Tucker settles down pretty quickly.  I hosted Bunco at my house one evening a few years ago, and he barked the WHOLE time, which lasted hours :O

 

In fact this year, when I hosted Bunco, I had my kids, Lance and husband find something to do out of the house for the evening and kept Tucker home, as I knew he would be fine with his calm personality, and we had just rescued him the month I was hosting Bunco!!  Tucker literally stood in the middle of our group looking at everyone, not making a peep, like aren't you going to pet me ?  Later on through the night he was either on his bed or at 1 of the two bunco tables, never making a peep!! 

 

Of course the advice reads: You have a herding dog (my dad highlights it), what I dont know, lol??  He is just doing what comes naturally. 

 

This really made me chuckle, well at least Dad is thinking about us.  :)

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Wow...Bunco haven't plated that in soooo many years!  Cute he thought to send it to you, we have a few that bark from the time the car is in the driveway till way after you're in the house....can't imagine any buglar trying to break in here! But then Wynn has taught 3 of them to parade around with a toy and be quiet and you WILL get the attention 1st:)
too funny :) and Zeus being he is a cardi too holy cow can he bark drives me nuts lol but gotta love him his sweet little face makes it all better ha ha
Just  wondering: since when are you supposed to ignore a barking dog?

When you have guests over, they are suppose to only give attention to your dogs when they are calm, not demanding attention. 

 

You write "Lance can bark and carry on, and on and on, even if you ignore him, like you are suppose to do." Well, I agree about the guests part of your reply, but you also write "I hosted Bunco at my house one evening a few years ago, and he barked the WHOLE time, which lasted hours :O " which you seem to find funny. Are you also ignoring the behavior? And you wonder what your Dad, who spent the weekend with you, is trying to say? I think Lance has you under a spell..... IMO no dog should be allowed to make such a nuisance of himself, nor should guests have to endure it. Ascribing this type of behavior to the fact that it's a herding breed, as some seem to think, implies that training has no role for household pets. Until he pays for rent, utilities, food, etc...it should be your house, your rules!

Anna,I never said I find it funny nor that I do nothing about it, sorry you got that impression.  I do not let my dogs run my house.  I find the barking annoying, I have been working with him on this, so please don't assume things when you don't know the full story. I have been talking to trainers and working with him.  I didn't just let him bark the WHOLE time either, I tried my hardest to calm him, I have come to the conclusion that he is anxious with house guests and chaos. He likes things to be calm and in order.  I was trying to keep my post short and to a point, I guess I left out some detail by doing that.  Trust me I could write pages, but who wants to read that?   

 

If you really knew me, you would know your assumptions are wrong.  I didn't appreciate the negative comments like I don't try or don't care, cause that is the farthest from the truth!!!! 

 

 

Natalie, I am sorry you felt my comments were  negative and uncalled for.  All I had to go on was what you wrote about the dog, your lol and funny face (which did suggest you found it funny).  When I inquired further, so as not to make assumptions, the  response you gave me  did not hint to anything being done either.   What I said was not intended to offend you, only to suggest that, when we love a dog, we can excuse, put up with, or grow accustomed to behaviors that we and others around us object to.  This need not be.

I put this face   :O which is a surprised or shocked look.

 

A smile, looks like this  :)

 

As far as I know there isn't a face for laughter. 

Anna, I often find myself nodding in agreement with your posts.  However, this sentence: "Ascribing this type of behavior to the fact that it's a herding breed, as some seem to think, implies that training has no role for household pets" stood out for me because I think that you read an awful lot between the lines of what Natalie was saying, and I don't really see how you got that from her post.

 

Corgis ARE hard-wired to bark, and are much more inclined to bark than many other breeds.  Many will bark almost continually while playing, for instance.  Others are a little quick to sound the alarm on alert-barking.  Both behaviors can be somewhat modified but are nearly impossible to eliminate.   Any good breed guide will tell you that if you don't like barking dogs, don't get a Corgi because ingrained, hard-wired behavior can be VERY hard to stop.

 

Both of mine have situations in which getting them to shut up is nearly impossible.  Neither of mine barks for visitors (strangers at the door, yes; people we invite in, no) but that is because visitors is not something that puts them over threshold, not because I'm some whiz-bang trainer.  

 

That is in no way implying that "training has no role."   Rather it's admitting that Corgis tend to be barkers.  If you want a dog that will stay by you in the woods, don't get a beagle.  If you want a dog that will be good with your pet hamster, don't get a rat terrier.  And if you want a dog that is quiet, don't get a Corgi!   

 

I'm sure Natalie has worked with Lance a lot, but in Corgis some barking can be incredibly difficult to stop.

 

I leave you with my favorite video of a working Cardi, often posted here by me when people ask about why their Corgi barks, or why their Corgi is so pushy, or why their Corgi "talks back."

 

 

 

 

Beth, thanks for your thoughtful reply as well as for the video, which I enjoyed watching, especially since my Corgi is a Cardigan.  The remark you quoted from my response was prompted by :"Of course the advice reads: You have a herding dog (my dad highlights it), what I dont know, lol??  He is just doing what comes naturally."

I understand that working breeds were bred to accentuate certain traits that served the purpose they were specifically bred for.  I also have great respect for the intelligence of most dogs and feel that dogs are capable of distinguishing working situations from non working situations.  This is more difficult for dogs who never have a chance to work, still they can learn the parameters of appropriate use of their inborn traits.  I raised Alaskan Malamutes for 30 yrs.  They are a pulling breed and I worked them in obedience, backpacking and sledding, yet I could go for walks in my neighborhood with two at a time and they knew not to pull ( they could have taken me anywhere they wanted, had they ignored their training). I could also ride with one at a time on leash, heeling by my bicycle.   Malamutes are also known as fighters, yet I could walk two intact, full grown males, together at shows and they would ignore the other dogs.  If we went hiking, I knew i'd have to put up with pulling for the first mile or so, then my rules kicked in: you can pull on the uphill, not on a straight strech, and on a downhill you stay behind me.  If you raise your expectations, you are fair and consistent, the dogs will cooperate, at least that's my experience.

When I adopted Mowgli,  my first Corgi, in January, he barked at everything in the house and outside.  Everything strarnge (and it was all strange to him) would set him off.  I taught him the word quiet and would sit on the floor with him to help him be quiet by reassuring him, I rarely scolded him.  Outside (we are on 10 acres) I would go out at the first bark, tell him to be quiet, praise if he listened, if not I would call him, give him a treat and bring him inside.  He has learned and now only barks if something is really unusual, so I go and check.  He settles as soon as I say it's all right and tell him to be quiet.  He will bark if someone comes on the property, or at the door, or if there is a starnge noise, and that is appreciated, but when I say quiet, he stops.  It just never dawned on me that it would end up any other way once we got to know and understand each other. 

This discussion has gone beyond the scope of Natalie's post, I hope she does not mind too much. She has clarified her role with Lance, so I hope she knows it's no longer about them at this point.

Hahaha...My Teagen is all about the STRANGER DANGER barking when someone comes over that she doesn't see regularly

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