Is there a light at the end of the tunnel?
I'm not sure if this is bad luck or a bad decision on my part. I have been on a waiting list for my very own corgi since April and it is still not looking very good. There have been numerous missed/failed pregnancies or very small litters (1-3 pups, not all of them make it).
As a first time dog owner, I'm not really quite sure how this process goes. It seemed to be the best option on the west coast that I could locate. The breeder is responsive, does testing, shows her dogs, the place is clean ect. I think she is a very nice lady and I want to believe every good thing, but I'm worried I may just be naive? I keep getting my hopes up, only to be disappointed.
Is this wait normal? How long is too long? Multiple times i have considered throwing a fit or ditching my deposit, but I know it wouldn't do much good.
Help!! :( How long was your search for your corgi?
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Permalink Reply by Vicky Hay on
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The breeder doesn't have much control over whether the dam gets pregnant or how many pups are conceived. Hereabouts, the problem for me was that there aren't many corgi breeders in my state, and I'm not comfortable about putting a dog in the hold of an airplane to ship it across the country. I did find a lady breeding corgis within reasonable driving distance, and paid to get on her waiting list. It was about six months before Ruby the Corgi Pup was born and ready to come home, as I recall.
Have you looked for rescues? Google your state name and corgi rescue. Also, every now and again someone on MyCorgi.com will post that they're looking for a home for a corgi, or will post about a corgi that's shown up in some shelter. Raising a puppy is a real pain in the u-no-where...given my choice, I'd take an adult rescue. But only if the dog was healthy and had no serious behavioral issues...not so easy to find. Cassie was a rescue: amazingly, this beautiful, lovely little dog showed up at the local ASPCA. Some ASPCA and animal control shelters post photos of incoming animals -- that's how I stumbled upon her. This allows you to keep your eye on the local rescues, online.
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Permalink Reply by Kristen Nicole on
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Vicky, I added you as a friend because I believe that you got your Ruby from her. I was scanning your blog posts and couldn't believe it! :) She is 3 hours away from me which I thought was quite reasonable. Any good/bad experiences you would like to share with me? (publicly or privately)
I have looked for rescues but most are mixes or special needs dogs. I really like the corgi in itself so mixes aren't my first choice, and I am way too green in the dog area of expertise to take on a special needs dog. This will be my first dog after 20 years of cats and horses.
Although yesterday I did find a corgi in the area needing a home...which is rare. I live in Yuma which is very close to the border and majority of dogs looking for homes are chihuahuas or pitbulls. The dog is 11 months old and was given to her by a friend. She was asking a rehoming fee of 75$, but agreed to waive it after talking to her. Nothing is known about this dog, but I assume it has been to the vet because its tail is docked, but obviously I would be opening a can of worms. I've decided to meet with him on friday to see if there's any connection. Truly I just want to save this dog...he doesn't look like he's currently in the best of care right now. The deciding factor for me would be if Lindsay's next litter produces a pup for me. (She's due on the 10th, x-ray shows 3 pups. If one doesn't make it i will be SOL for who knows how long)
I went with Lindsay because I would enjoy some peace of mind that my pup will not get a common corgi disease down the line. As well as implement my own training techniques! But I've been waiting for almost 8 months and it gets harder day by day. I'm alone most of the day so a companion is my main goal!
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So is Lindsay the breeder who's been having a tough time getting a decent litter? Hm. That's too bad. She had two litters within a couple weeks of each other last January, and both were fairly large. One, I think, had 8 pups, but one of those died.
I like her very much. My son and I visited her home twice and found it very clean, very orderly, and the dogs healthy and happy.
One thing I didn't realize at the time: she had an adult dog that someone had returned. If I'd known, I might have asked to adopt that one. It might be worth asking her if she has an adult to re-home.
I don't think there are very many corgi breeders in AZ. There are some in Utah, but that's an outrageous drive from Yuma. It would make more sense to look in Southern California.
Three of the best dogs I've ever had were...uhm, second-hand roses. I wouldn't be too concerned about inheriting a lot trouble, necessarily, in adopting a dog someone else is trying to unload. At 11 months? It's still a puppy -- indeed, it's an adolescent -- and if the present owner hasn't trained it well, it's probably raising all sorts of puppy He**. If you know how to train a dog, you can deal with that. If not...older, much older is better.
In Phoenix, there's a lady who runs a corgi rescue. Her name is also Vicky (i forget the last name right this minute). Here's her site: http://www.azcactuscorgirescue.com/default.aspx Sometimes it seems her "dogs for adoption" page isn't right up to date, so it's worth calling her to ask about her status. One nice thing about Vicky is she doesn't try to sugar-coat any dog's characteristics: you get what she says you're gonna get.
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Well I'm glad to hear that you see her facility fit! About a week ago a litter of 2 was born, and one ended up dying. She wants to keep a female from the next few litters, as well as offer them to show homes before the waiting list.. I do think that is a bit unfair. I'm about 4th on the list currently and things like that just keep setting me back! Especially if the litters continue to be small.
If I do end up adopting this craiglist dog in the meantime, my only worry is that I wont be able to handle the pup I have a deposit on in the future. Granted I can stay on the wait list as long as I please and "pass" until I'm ready, I just don't know how its going to turn out. I know very little about mystery dog. What if the rescue does better as an only dog? My husband would guilt me about that lost puppy deposit until he turned blue in the face. lol!
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Any breeder can have a pregnancy that does not take. Any breeder can have a small litter. Personally I would maybe be a bit concerned, though, if this seems to be a routine issue for this breeder. Average Corgi litters are around 7 or so, I think. Regular missed pregnancies and tiny, tiny litters COULD be (but might not be) a sign of a lack of vigor due to repeated close line-breeding.
So I think I'd try to find ways to ask questions and see if this is kind of normal for her or if she's just had some bad luck.
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I understand that mother nature is the one in control, but after getting my hopes up 2 or 3 times I am quite sick of it :( I expressed my concern and she was very nice to reply promptly and truthfully about the matter. Apparently they were her newer two dogs that she got from another state. She thinks it was stress from flying and she didn't know how unsocialized they were before obtaining them. This was one of the first times its happened to her. I really have no choice but to believe it.
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Permalink Reply by Jane on
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I would ask your breeder if she could refer you to another breeder or two that may have a litter coming sooner.
Are you looking for a pem or a cardi?
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She did refer me to another breeder but they were a few hours away without a website or anything. She assured me that litters were planned and I could have a puppy in a few months. Little did I know, I ended up being 16 on the waiting list. O___O
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Permalink Reply by Anna Morelli on
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Agree with Jane. Personally, I don't see how a breeder would take a deposit and keep it when the planned litter fails, or when the number of puppies born is too small to assign a puppy to whomever has put down a deposit, or the expected sex, or whatever else has been stipulated cannot be fulfilled. This seems both unreasonable and unethical unless a clear choice is given of getting one's deposit back under those circumstances.
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That was my first initial thought...But I then realized I did not put a deposit down on a certain litter. I unknowingly ended up being #16 on the list after putting down my deposit. As a first time buyer, I stupidly just threw my money at her.
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It's a good breeders responsibility to instruct people new to dog ownership, or new to the breed, about the ins and outs of getting a puppy as these people, though well intended, often don't know the right questions to ask and this is quite normal....
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Yeah, that's well said. And if several breeders in the area are following the same practice, it's hard for a buyer to know whether that's customary or just something they cooked up together that you could avoid by looking elsewhere.
After all, how often does an ordinary pet owner buy a new puppy? It's a tree full of low-hanging fruit ripe for picking...
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