So we have the opportunity to get a free Landseer Newfoundland.  This was our first choice of dog when we started our search, so it's kind of exciting.  Of course there is a catch.  They bought her at a pet store, which means she most likely came from a puppy mill.  Do we take the chance and get a dog that might be messed up health wise later on?  Would it be ok to ask them for the "breeder" name and info on the papers and copy of the last vet records?  Seems a bit overkill for a free dog, but I like to be as informed as possible about big decisions like this. 

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If they're giving you the dog and it has papers wouldn't they give you them also? I don't know why they would object either way. How old is the dog and why are they getting rid of the dog? Good Luck...keep us updated! Could you ask them if they would let you take the dog to a vet to have it "checked" not that the vet can tell you everything BUT they could at least make sure it appears healthy now.
She's only 6 months old so still moldable to our life but through the "I have to pee every hour" stage. The other tricky part is they are 4 hours away, so if we drive all the way there, I suppose we have to take her :) He's getting rid of her cause he had to move back in with his parents and doesn't have the time or space for her any more. Blah, blah, same excuse most people give for getting rid of a family member. I'll be demanding and ask for all the info. The worst they could say is no.
I hope everything turns out well.
A 6 month old would still be easily trained with steady guidance. What types of health problems do Newfoundlanders have? You could ask if the breeder has a web site just let him know you're "curious".Personally I would probably take the chance if I really wanted this type of dog (she's kind of a rescue) but I am guessing that the dog should get entered in basic obedience ASAP to help also. If you do remember that this pup has probably been through alot of transition and it will take a bit to get her on track! She should be past the "I have to pee every hour". Good Luck and let us know what you decide! Oh and if you do...I would love to see pics!
I would take the dog with the idea that this is the same kind of dog I could get from a rescue or the pound (don't know the breeding history). If this dog came from a pet store it did come from a puppy mill. Sorry to be so blunt, but they all say "we only have puppies from reputable breeders" and they're all lying because NO reputable breeder would EVER let their puppies end up in a pet store. The "puppy mill" she came from may have been a clean one where dogs were fed, but they are certainly breeding only for profit. This doesn't mean that you suouldt adopt thus girl, it just means you have go understand that she may have health problems down the road and that her size/temperament/etc may not he a true representation if the breed. Good luck and let us know what happens.
In my opinion, you can do everything right in the world and things can still go wrong, there's no guarantee in life. So the real question for you is: Are you ready to commit for the next 15 years, for better or worst?
I would look up the primary health problems for Newfies first. Then decide if you can handle the possibilities. A friend of mine had a wonderful rescue but she had many health issues but my friend is a vet so she could handle it. Their's was a great dog that shed and drooled a lot by the way!
I just had to put my Newfoundland down Friday. He lived to be 13 years old. I got him from the vet after he had been hit by a car when we lived in North Carolina. The people who owned him left him for a week in the trailer park with no food/water, where he proceeded to get hit by a car and almost died. I took him in after he had surgery for two broken front legs (with plates/screws placed), a broken jaw and all his puppy teeth knocked out. He definitely didn't come from a reputable breeder with papers. BUT--he was the absolute sweetest dog I could have ever had. All of my dogs have been rescues (with the exception of my corgi), and they have made the most wonderful pets ever. They are just so happy to have a home. Even with papers, it's not guarenteed that they are going to be healthy their whole life. Sampson ended up having seizures from the head injury from the accident, and severe arthritis later in life--but my corgi has dealt with many bladder infections, and just ruptured her rear left leg ligament--and she came from a reputable breeder. Newfoundlands make AWESOME pets, and if you can handle the drool and hair, I say go for it!!!!
WOOT!!!! My husband just said we could get her! I of course had decided weeks ago when I first saw the ad, but he has to think on things. I'll be calling the lady tonight and we'll drive the 4 hours to get her on Saturday. Thanks for all the support, you guys are the best. I'll post pictures once we get her home and settled.
How is it going with your Landseer? Did you get her? In my experience with Newfies, their temperaments are extremely stable. They are calm, easy going dogs. Even half-newfies seem to get the wonderful Newfy temperament.

We got her. and......well..... she is scared of most everything on walks, doesn't listen to me worth anything (her other owner was a man, so she thinks my husband is fabuous) and the cats are fairly bitter. I don't know how to get them all together on a non hissing, non chasing relationship. Obedience classes start Thursday so I really hope we can work on these issues. here's our first set of pictures

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