Problem with biting
Hello all,
Desperately need advice. Waffle,our 6-year-old Pem, has bitten my husband and my son (age 22), more than once. Pretty sure he is protecting me, but this is way too dangerous. I am willing to try some training, but don't know if we can cure him! Will also consider a rescue, but how we pass our problem on to someone else? Do not want to put him down!
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Permalink Reply by Priscilla, CARLY, and Frankie on
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Permalink Reply by Susan Spitzer on
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Thank you! Wonderful insights, and yes, we do acknowledge that Waffle thinks he owns the joint. We used to say that with a bit of humor. Now we know it's a problem, and we are willing to work with him.
I love all the comments and insights - this was what I needed (maybe three years ago when he first started to show fear aggression towards other dogs). Boy,he is sounding smarter every day, and I am sounding just a bit clueless, but I'll still have a bigger brain, and I need to use it more.
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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on
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I love what Kelly said!! If you have one of those very smart, bossy corgis you have to step up your game. Sparty is like that and he is a great dog but he needed (I needed) repeated classes and a very consistent approach plus lots of exercise and mental stimulation. My Izzy and ( now gone) Buffy just needed lots of love and a comfy spot on the sofa. There is real variance in their personalities. Another reason to develop a relationship with a breeder so you receive help picking a puppy if at all possible. Our doberman is a pussycat and would not have made much of a protection dog even though that is what they were bred for. Izzy would not make much of a herding dog since there are rarely any comfy sofas out there in the pasture! Lol
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hahaha... I use to laughingly say that carly was smarter than me, now i know she is.. At night when its time to go to bed she has caught on to time of day, because with out a clue whatsoever she wont come to either of us knowing its crate time...its right next to my bed. For some reason she rebels at going to bed and funny thing is she settles right down and sleeps wonderful in there, always has..
I tell her all the time she needs to a cow to play with. Im guessing we (my husband and i) had no clue but were learning more and more everyday!
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Update on Waffle is: so far, so good. We use some alpha dog techniques from Cesar Milan techniques, and the NILF web site. However, Cesar pokes his dogs, and I would never do that. Corgis are too short to poke,and who would be crazy enough to poke a biter? Waffle behaves much better on or off leash when my husband walks him. I have to use a choke collar and LOTS of repetition. If I let him break even one time (such as, allow him to walk ahead of me), he figures I am weak. He is not giving up that Alpha role easily. But he has also learned to walk away, even to kennel himself, if we are watching TV or having a (rare!) sit down meal at the kitchen table. That kennel door is always open, and we NEVER use it as punishment. So far, he has never used that lair as a place to launch an attack. I still don't trust him, and would love to have a personal trainer, but they cost $$$$. Waffle knows that things are different, and he is resisting the change, but at least I still have my handsome, intelligent dog!
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Permalink Reply by Chris West on
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Wow, I ALWAYS poke Frosty when he gets uppity with me, and when he barks, and when he is pretending to ignore me lol. It is the only thing that snaps him out of it. I definitely wouldn't do it if frightens you though, that would not help. Glad to hear you are having some success. You rock!!
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Permalink Reply by Lesley on
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Thanks so much for the update. Herman is a 9-year-old corgi and tends to nip or bite my fiance or his male lab. Usually its a food issue or he has been jostled or stepped on. Herman has lots of health issues: kidney problems, high blood pressure, thyroid issues, and back pain. I Think the NIFL training will be good for him along with the Dog Whisperer techniques I have been doing also. I think I will go get him a crate too. I like the idea of him having his own safe spot away from all the animals. I had a trainer give me one free session and he had me correcting Herman with my food not my hand so I don't get nipped.
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Permalink Reply by Don on
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Ok, I'm no professional dog trainer but I'll give you what advice I can.
Dogs bite for a many various reasons, but lets elminiate some of the possibilities.
Feeling ill or injury- Have you taken the dog to the vet, if the dog is not feeling well this could be the source.
New addition- Resource guarding can not only be with food, it can be with people as well.
Not Spayed or Neutered- Yes, I know this sounds so typical, but male dogs will protect females and the reverse for not fixed dogs.
Now, with that being said, some of the more not obvious issues. Lack of training, or lack of obedience or possibly being board.
Start with the Nothing in life is free training, the dog needs to learn that humans provide his living. Everyone needs to participate, that way the dog has no association to liking one more then the other.
Remember this much, Positive training will work faster and create lasting bonds more so then classic training. The idea here is to create a bond that your dog views you as not only the food provider but also as a friend. Fear will only lead to further escalating issues with the biting.
Lastly ask if your son has done anything to the dog that may have prompted this issue, maybe an accidental scare, stepped on paw...ect. Some will say dogs don't remember but I tend to disagree, I've had a dog remember as I work for the Humane Society, the dog disliked me and only me, come to find out I looked like the owners son whom abused the dog.
Just my thoughts on it, Pick up a book, talk to a vet and seek the help of a local trainer. This can be fixed without too much of an issue. Just stick with it, remain positive and you'll pull through without many issues.
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Hi Don,
Thanks so much for thoughtful reply! Truly appreciate it. We've ruled out most of the causes except lack of training - more accurately, not being consistent and persistent. We are working with our dog more now and think we can improve things. I agree this can be fixed but we have to stick with it! Waffle is our wonder dog, and he deserves our guidance, love, and care.
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Permalink Reply by Ashley R on
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I have my first corgi, he is 4 months old. I (very mistakenly) thought a corgi would be much easier than a border collie (I'm a border collie person, first and foremost). But, at this stage of my life with small children, I felt a less intense dog would be a better choice for our small farm. Corgis are not easier than border collies! I STRONGLY encourage you to watch Cesar Millan's raising a puppy episode, even though your dog is not a puppy. I don't have TV but go online to national geographic's site where I can watch full episodes of the dog whisperer. His puppy episode breaks everything down from feeding, playing, & training and how to establish yourselves as leaders with your dog. This episode helped open my eyes to all the things Henry does now, that will lead to problem behaviors if not eliminated. Apparently, corgis need LOTS of discipline (much more than a border collie who needs more exercise than discipline). I think you could literally start over with your corgi - as if he were a puppy and see drastic improvement. By the way, I poke (bite) my corgi when he is too wound up and find that getting in a squat position makes this easier since he is so low to the ground. Believe in your ability to fix this and it will happen.
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Ashley i tried to find the episode on puppy's and i dont seem to be able to figure it out , what did you type in?
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