regular wellness vs. wellness core ?
hello everyone i have a question about the wellness core. i currently feed teddy super five mix lamb, barley, and salmon and does very well on it but last night when we went to puppy play time(he did fantastic again!) we were getting food for our cats and they are normally on the wellness indoor formula but the core caught my husbands eye. we decided to give it a try for our cats and the people at petco recommended over the indoor formula. since it stil had cranberries in it to promote healthy urinary tract health we took it home and the cats love it!
so after this i was thinking of putting teddy on core. he is 26pounds,gets walks/goes to the dog park here on base almost everyday so i thinking maybe the core would be better for him? should he be on the original or the reduced fat? and does your corgis like the fish recipe? i heard that it gives dogs bad breath and certainly dont want that! lol
here are some pics of him to give u a better idea of his weight, these were taken about 2weeks ago. i know he doesnt look very happy in the pics, i believe it was because he is getting sick of me taking pics of him all the time lol
thank you!
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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It's very high protein at 34%. It's also over 400 cal/cup.
I know some swear by the high-protein diets but they are very controversial. Some dogs don't do well on them. Personally I would only consider it for a true working dog (actively herding on a farm, doing heavy hunting, search-and-rescue, etc).
Cats need a higher-protein diet to begin with, so the change is not as great.
It's a personal decision.
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Permalink Reply by Karen Dadisman on
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He looks nice and trim. I would just leave him with what he is on. Why fix it if it isn't broken?
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Permalink Reply by Rebecca Marie O'Bryan on
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thank you:) this is true, he is already fit
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Permalink Reply by Melissa and Franklin! on
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A super high protein food is GREAT for cats, they are obligate carnivores and can eat a diet that is ALL protein. The super high protein for a dog however, is not advisable. If you start doing your research, you will run across MANY MANY cases of dogs almost dying from the high protein content in Wellness Core. Kidney failure after feeding this diet is not uncommon. I'd stick with what is working, but the Core would be a great choice for cats.
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Permalink Reply by Priscilla, CARLY, and Frankie on
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i bought a bag of taste of the wild and i was wondering if its also to high in protein?
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Permalink Reply by Peggy Woods on
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I've been using Taste of the Wild since I got my dog & he & I both love it. Currently using the salmon mix for the extra oil. He gets that in his "dispenser" ball and a little (1/4 cup or less) with most meals.
I also feed Natural Instinct raw medallions & other raw food I mix on my own. We live at a high altitude with a long, cold winter. I take him out every single morning for 30-60 minutes of walk, run & play. One day of extra play. In the summer he gets lots of running along with the long board or hiking in the forest.
How you feed your pets is a personal decision. I have just chosen to feed my dog a more natural diet, one that is grain-free. I have also chosen one similar (no grains) for my self with excellent results :) If your dog does well on Taste of the Wild, awesome! I get the smaller bags & rotate flavours. I'm amazed at how long a bag can last as they don't need to eat as much.
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Some of their formulas are high-protein and some are not. Check your label. Anything around 25%, give or take a few points, is a "traditional" protein level for dogs, with somewhere around 35% being traditional for cats.
Keep in mind most grain-free foods use potato (or peas) as the starch instead of grains. I have yet to see anything that says why potatoes are better (or more natural) for dogs than, say, rice or oatmeal. It became popular with dogs in much the same way Atkins became popular with people.To each his own, BUT do watch because some small studies show some dogs are more aggressive on high-protein diets, and as Melissa mentioned some dogs' kidneys can't handle it. High-calorie foods also mean you only feed a tiny, tiny amount. Corgis like to eat. I am sure I would not be happy if someone gave me a couple tablespoons of high-density food a day and told me that was all I could eat. I prefer a lower-calorie food that I can feed a bit more of. As it is my dogs get a cup or less of food a day, and theirs is only about 340 cal/cup. Some of the more expensive foods are nearly 500 cal/cup. I really wouldn't want to just feed a third of a cup of food a day.
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yea i see what you mean. since teddy is so trim i give him a little less than a cup in the morn and half a cup at night. his food i give him now is 22% . the cats was 30% but the core for them is 50%
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o no, i wouldnt want teddy to get kidney failure! his normal food is 22% i was just thinking of putting him on it because he is always out and about but i certainly dont want him to have kidney problems.
the cat food went from 30% to 50% and they do love there new food
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Permalink Reply by Elisabeth Spector on
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I would say that if Teddy is doing well on the Super 5 Mix, there should be no compelling reason to change.
FWIW, here are a couple of links I found on the topic of protein levels in dog food:
http://www.thepetcenter.com/article.aspx?id=3408
http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/best-dog-foods/low-protein-dog-foods/
Melissa, do you have any links you can share on the subject of Core causing kidney disease in dogs? I couldn't find anything in my (albeit cursory) look on the internet, but you might have something readily bookmarked you can point me to. Many thanks!
Elisabeth
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I'll try to find the links. I had just read about it when Wellness Core was still relatively new and I was planning to switch my dog to a higher quality food from Purina One. I had done A TON of research and there were quite a lot of reviews for Wellness Core with people almost losing their pets to complications (including kidney issues) caused by the food, so I opted for Blue Buffalo Wilderness instead, bc I didn't find any scary reviews. I also have a friend who was feeding her 2 year old French Bulldog Core and after a few months she was vomiting and very sick, when they did bloodwork and a urinalysis she had elevated urine protein levels. Vet thought it was likely to the new high protein diet. In the dogfoodadvisor article it says "The only real justification for a restricted protein diet is very high urinary nitrogen (uremia) or elevated urinary protein (proteinuria)". And in my friends case, her dog had proteinuria due to feeding Wellness Core and was instructed by the vet to feed a lower protein diet. I'll see if I can find those cases caused specifically by Core, it was on a few sites similar to dogfoodanalysis that had consumer reviews as well.
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those are some interesting articles. it has mixed info saying a lot of vets think that high protein is bad but then the argument is the higher the protein the better. im thinking i will keep him on the super five mix since he does so well on it:)
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