I'm frustrated about my 2 new corgis. One is 2.5--the female, the male is 4.5. I got them from an out of state breeder (not a puppy mill). I made the mistake of assuming they'd have basic training and were housebroken given they were show dogs. They don't even have a clue when I tell them not to bark! The one is more housebroken than the other. They don't even know what it means to "lay down" or "sit." I got the female spayed right away. She is trying hard to be the alpha dog with my first dog. I've done much obedieance training in the past and have changed nightmare dogs into sweethearts with much work and patience. That said, I'm ticked off that a person who competes in dog shows, breeds dogs and is a member in a specific club seems to have done nothing with these dogs, but didn't tell me any of these issues, yet I paid for the one (other one was a last minute freebie). I do mean they don't even know sit, don't bark, to pee outside. I asked many questions of the corgis I tried to adopt through rescue organizations as a responsible person should. That just seemed to get me past over--reasonable questions and not too many. So given I paid much more to adopt older dogs that needed to be fixed as well as completely trained, I feel the seller was decidedly less than forth coming. I was only looking for one dog to be a buddy for my first dog. So I have 2 new dogs needing a ton of work. Strays or rescue dogs, you rather expect much work, but not from someone who shows and breeds dogs.
Show dogs are not always house dogs. They go live with a handler and might be confined to a kennel or run at the handler's or in the handler's truck at shows. The owner is only interested in putting titles on dogs so they can sell pups at a high price. Granted not all show people are this way but I would guess that's the way the person who sold/gave you these. Be kind to the poor babies. Your's might be the first house and family they have had. They will repay you.
Your take is pretty accurate. I was told the one dog was an inside dog, that she loved the couch and sleeping on the bed. I asked for additional picture(s) which showed the dog laying inside. I asked about their health\ issues, so I'm ticked off. I realize the dogs are a product of their environment, just venting. I was pretty much told they were house dogs
Also, even if they were housebroken (and even obedience trained) at his/her house, that doesn't mean they automatically be housebroken in your house. It depends on the dog. I watched my friend's dog for two weeks because she had surgery and was not able to handle him (he is a Chow/Husky). He is strong-willed and she had gotten him at the age of 4 months and was a little over a year by the time he came to stay at my house so he was housebroken (never had an accident in her house actually) and was as obedience trained as he was going to get. Once he stepped into my house he seemed to forget absolutely everything because it was basically "new house, new person to take care of me, let's see what I can get away with." He marked in my house (pee and poop by the way) and didn't listen to me much at all. It got to the point where my friend ended up having to board him for the remainder of the time she couldn't take care of him because I was unable to work with him at the time.
Now it really could be that these dogs were actually mostly kennel dogs but there is that chance that they were in fact house dogs but everything went out the window once they figured out they were going to live in another person's house.
If you are really lucky, you buy from someone who: shows only one or two Corgis at a time; breeds once or twice a decade; and sells you the Corgi only because that someone can't keep six or more dogs!
I am sorry that you are having a poor experience.
I had this same experience at the beginning of this year. Several LOOOOOOOONG conversations with the breeder and a detailed description of what I was looking for. What I ended up with was a dog aggressive dog who clearly had never been in a house before. He was terrified of the TV and marked the house, was NOT crate trained even though they said he was (would bark and whine in the crate), was terrified of car rides. He did have obedience training however because he did complete his championship and was titled in obedience and rally. I originally took him on trial so was able to test him out in my home and normal life for a month before deciding if he was right for me, didi the breeder you get him from offer anything like that?
It's very unfortunate that the breeder wasn't completely honest with you. Have you talked to him or her about it? And how long have you had them? As others have said, housebreaking does not always travel over to a new home. I would be patient and give them some time to adjust to the new lifestyle and housing arrangements.
As Beth said, many show dogs are not taught to sit. They want the dog to stand in the show ring, not have a default sit after a heel. And expecting corgis not to bark in a new environment is a little unrealistic too I think...even if they were trained to stop barking - do you know what command the original owner was using? Heck I wish my two would stop barking on command but we haven't mastered that one yet.
Thank you so much for the feedback. I am thrown about the needs of these new guys as you can tell. I should have talked to my vet more about what to expect and asked the breeder more questions. As I said last night, I lost on on many rescue dogs for apparently asking questions like "what is the corgi mix?" They replied that "oh, you're looking for a purebreed. I only wanted to know for possible aggression/temperment reasons. So, I didn't ask too much of the breeder and she did comment the day I got the dog "you haven't asked enough questions." I suppose that was to mean, I would have told you had you asked.Again, I assumed these dogs had training that they don't other than she said to use the word "easy" if they're barking or not listening. I am showing my ignorance in conformation showing, versus say obedience/agility. Guess I thought all non-puppy mill breeders invested more time on the basics than some do. I think I'll have to put the one dog on her leash inside the house for now as she goes off and pees lots even though I take them outside lots, every hour if possible. The suggestions/realistic expectations you folks mentioned will be most helpful.
Good luck with your training. I have a client who adopted three puppy mill, part-Corgi mixes. Even those which had been confined pretty much their entire lives, eventually trained to be perfect little housepets. They now, like rescue dogs, are overwhelmed with devotion and love for the lady who saved them from terrible lives. I'd bet your two newcomers, after they get used to your house, housetraining, etc., are going to pay you back BIG TIME in love and appreciation for showing them a new, comfortable life.
Dogs don't generalize well. I said "SIT" to my adopted cattle dog a million times and her butt only hit the ground when I said "Sit down". Silly me!
If I may suggest - focus on establishing a relationship before expecting good behavior. A rehomed dog is a rehomed dog whether it is a "rescue" ( I hate that term) or not. Those dogs sound really stressed out. New family, new job, new words! So much to take in at once :_0
Becca had been a show prospect before I got her at eight months. I visited her a week before I went to get her 3 hours each way. I knew what I was getting into. She was crate trained and housebroken. I walked with her and played with her while there. I was a little shocked at how little she knew. She had house manners, but not much else. It took a few weeks at my house before I saw the same Becca I met when I visited. It is a major life change.
Now we are on our fifth class. She is way smart and enjoys working. Are there classes you can join? It is a wonderful way to bond.
Did you get a trial period in your contract?