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Comment by Teresa Kannard on March 1, 2010 at 11:42pm
NEW United Kennel Club corgi club starting for Pembroke and Cardigan Welsh Corgis! See link below for United Corgi Club of America!
http://www.kannard.com/LD/UCCA_Homepage.html
Comment by Teresa Kannard on March 1, 2010 at 2:07am
It does not always pan out! You have to get an eye and know your lines and how they develop. Study your pedigrees. Sometimes it is a genetic yahtzee with a pairing and sometimes you get nothing. There is no such thing as a perfect dog, but you aim to get a close as possible and look at the virtues of the dog along with the weaknesses. What are virtues that you seek the most and what weaknesses do you not want. What is the intended use of the dog. Different events look for different virtues in a dog and will not tolerate different weaknesses. Then you just hope for the best in the development. Usually what they look like at 7 to 8 weeks is what they will look like as adults. Or you can try the puppy puzzle. I also get other breeders opinion that have similar lines. But in the end it is your decision and you have to rely on your gut, your eye, and the knowledge you have gained.
Comment by Dina Fasilis-Evacko on February 28, 2010 at 2:23pm
How can you rule out if a puppy is a show prospect or not? Some says that "odd" looking ones can turn out so beautifully. I know every and each puppy matures differently..just like us humans. I know that faults can appear later in life.... How can you be confident enough that he/she is definitely is show prospect?
Comment by Teresa Kannard on February 17, 2010 at 1:10am
NEW UKC Champion Laughing Dawg's Saigon Cinnamon finished his Championship in one weekend of shows with a Group 3 and a Group 4!!

Co-owned with Andrea Riley
WAY TO GO Andrea and Sam!!!
Comment by Jay on December 10, 2009 at 2:07am
hello everyone!! I will soon be showing my blue baloo when the time comes so mabey you guys can help me in the future
Comment by Joanna Kimball on December 2, 2009 at 6:51pm
You get the same kind of lines about red and white Cardis.

Most of the time when there's a definite color preference it's not that judges are prejudiced as much as it is that the color has not either historically or currently been associated with quality. For decades the top Pem breeders have bred red and whites; they don't tend to breed to the BHTs because the BHTs aren't as high-quality. BHT breeders tend to stick to that one color because it's recessive and has to be consistently bred to consistently show up, so the problem is perpetuated. Eventually you get the "I've never seen a nice BHT" phenomenon and everybody assumes that a BHT is not going to be as nice as the others in the ring. The same thing happens with the red Cardis; the top breeders haven't tended to like them too much because they can look like Pems, so they are known as being hard to finish and ugly. Until, of course, Nancy Cunliffe shows up with her breathtaking reds and wins everything and walks away smiling and you're standing there holding a white ribbon and your perfect-colored dog.

In every breed I've studied carefully, people who own the rarer colors will talk about how prejudiced the judges are ... until someone accidentally or on purpose breeds one that's really great, and lo and behold the judges put them up like crazy. I had blue Danes, and never managed to do much in the show ring, and everybody told me that it was because of the color, but in one year we had a blue dog in the Top 20 and a blue bitch took WB at the Nationals. The fact is that my dogs had some things that I'm very proud of but they didn't have the typey heads that are a big part of show Danes and they were never going to do well regardless of color.

For the majority of judges, it really is all about quality, and they'd LOVE to put up a nice odd-colored dog - a bronze Newf or a fawn Beardie or a blue Dane or a BHT Pem or a black Lakie or whatever you'd prefer. They just rarely see one.

Put a good dog out there and I don't care if it's green. It WILL finish, and probably very fast.
Comment by Dina Fasilis-Evacko on December 2, 2009 at 6:29pm
It is like comparing a blonde to a brunette. Some says the blondes are better looking? It seem to me that you have to work harder, when you own a black-headed tri? Then again... I understand your statement.
Comment by Wind Dial on December 2, 2009 at 6:15pm
Just depends on who your talking to and perhaps which judge they are talking about. I have heard the handler I sometimes use, she is a very well established Pembroke handler and even judges specialty sweeps classes sometimes say that it does happen. I trust her opinion about as good as anybodies. It isn't impossible for a a black headed tri to point and finish, one of my boys' sire is an AKC CH and I think last years Nat'l Specialty winner was a black headed tri female AKC CH Corizma Potions. So if you have a good one, it will do good but might just take a few extra weekends if you happen to get under what the handler calls "red routine" judges.
Comment by Dina Fasilis-Evacko on December 2, 2009 at 6:08pm
I was told that the black-headed tri Corgis ( Pembrokes) has a hard time winning points. I heard that the judges favors a different color? I want to know if this is true? Does certain colors attract judges?
Comment by Teresa Kannard on November 18, 2009 at 12:52am
so cute! Good luck at the show and have fun!
 

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