Still on the search for a reputable breeder

So I have been looking for a good reputable breeder this past year. I am looking for a corgi sometime at the end of this year or next year. I am willing to wait. Just wanted to get some feedback on what you guys think about these breeders asking for an upwards of $900+ for a corgi that has no champion lines or it's just one parent that does. Is this a reasonable price for a pembroke corgi? I also don't mind if the corgi doesn't have champion lines because I won't be showing he/she anyways. I do want the breeder to have tested their dogs for genetic diseases though. I contacted a breeder that had a DM carrier corgi parent but was still asking $900+. I also contacted a breeder on the AKC site and she said she did not do testing because she knows where her dogs came from. Just wanted your guys feedback, sorry for all the questions. It's just getting so hard to find a good breeder in the socal area. Thanks in advance. 

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Comment by Samantha Hernandez on September 14, 2012 at 7:33pm

@Wendy- I do really want a puppy because I think it will be easier for my golden retriever and the puppy to get along. Plus I would love to train him/she and I have a name picked out already. LOL. I really cannot wait to get my little fur baby. I'm excited to try agility out with my potential corgi since I missed that chance with my golden. 

Comment by Lucy & Ricky (Wendy/Jack ) on September 14, 2012 at 4:03pm

You've been getting some excellent advice and you are being very conscientious. Jean York is an excellent breeder and I highly recommend her. Wonderful ethics and dedication. I met Cynthia Campbell of Stablemate at the S. CA Specialty show. She had a very sweet Corgi, but that's all I know about her. I did ask for her business card. If getting a puppy is not foremost in your thoughts, consider Corgi Rescue. Good luck. Keep us posted.

 

Comment by Samantha Hernandez on September 13, 2012 at 2:27pm

Jane- I did contact her and then she referred me to another person that gave me a list of current breeders that had puppies or upcoming litters.But I haven't found any luck with that. I was thinking of Stable mate corgis in Riverside. Has anybody heard of them? If so could you give me a little information if she is reputable or not. 

Comment by Jane on September 13, 2012 at 9:41am

I have heard really good things about Jean York in Ridgecrest, CA. I think that's not too far from you? I'm not sure if she has a website but her kennel name is Coalbyn and I think she's a PWCCA member.

As far as the prices, I would expect to pay around that for a puppy from health tested parents. I don't think it's a huge issue if one of them is not a champion (some dogs just don't like to show, but that doesn't mean they aren't great breeding potential), but I would still expect the breeder to be showing their other dogs at least.

Comment by Ludi on September 12, 2012 at 9:07pm

You are being an awesome potential owner by doing all this research. Really, it is commendable. A red flag is definitely an over-bred dog, be it male or female. It's particularly dangerous for the female, as SO many complications arise when you force a dog to give birth over, and over. Uterine prolapse is among the first of many problems that can, and probably will occur at some point.

The thing is, champion lines really mean very little. Two rockstars can, and definitely do have "so-so" dogs. In the corgi breed, things like shoulder layback, rear angulation, chest, and head shape can differ wildly in the same litter. While you do increase your chances of having beautiful progeny with great angles if you breed two well-put together dogs, not all the puppies luck out. So to me, the parents' accolades mean little.

Always ask for photos and documentation on the parents. Ask what their temperament is like, how is their drive, if they've produced before, try and see how the puppies are built and ask what they were like as well. In the end, solid construction and genetics are more important than titles.

Comment by Samantha Hernandez on September 12, 2012 at 8:57pm

Hi all, thanks for all the feedback. Ludi- Yes that is true. I have a golden retriever that cost a good amount of money but the peace of mind is worth it. She is currently 7 years old, almost 8 and has been very healthy. I do understand in investing in a good quality pup. 

As for being DM clear thanks everyone for clearing that up for me. I thought it was a bad thing for one of the parents to have it present. I only ask about the $900+ because I have contacted some breeders that are charging that amount for a puppy that does not come from champion lines. One of these breeders seems to be breeding a lot which I think cannot be healthy for the female. 

Comment by Ludi on September 12, 2012 at 8:34pm

$900 is nothing compared to the peace of mind you will have by going with a reputable breeder. Having a mentor who knows their stuff and will be someone you can look to for guidance and information, and sometimes there to hold your hand when things get tough, is worth it alone. That, on top of all the pricey health screening done beforehand is why I will never have a problem paying that much for a dog. They are meant to be our companion for a dozen years or more - why not invest in the future securely?

I know some folks can't/don't want to pay as much for their puppy. That's fine, that's their prerogative. I am too much of a worrywart to leave much up to chance, though.

Comment by Beth on September 12, 2012 at 8:01pm

The upfront price of a puppy pales in comparison to what you will pay in vet bills if you end up with a dog with chronic health problems.  Just keep that in mind.  I would expect to pay anywhere from about $800 to $1500 for a pet-quality dog from a good breeder at this point, depending on where you live.   Only about 9% of Pembroke Welsh Corgis are DM clear, so don't expect to find a litter without a parent who is a carrier.  I would even be ok with two at-risk parents;  most Corgis are at risk but very few develop the disease, so there is obviously something else going on.  They are currently running studies to try to find modifier genes.  In the meantime, don't be surprised if breeders are not willing to tell you the results of DM testing, or claim they don't test (many probably do but don't share the results).   The breeder should be very willing to discuss hip tests, eye tests, vWb tests, and the actual health of the dogs in her lines.   But DM?  Probably many will say they don't test.

Comment by liane, emi, and helix! on September 12, 2012 at 7:36pm

I understand where you are right now, I found it hard to find a corgi puppy in socal as well! The breeders in the LA/OC area I contacted that were on the PWWC list were asking ALOT for a puppy! 900$-1000$ for a pup I just could not afford ): although I have no doubts that their puppies are of quality, I just could not afford. I ended up driving up to NorCal to pick up one of my pups! It takes a while to find the right puppy, just take your time! I would say you should meet up with some of the breeders and see if you can visit, I found that talking to a breeder in person really helps clear your conscience and clear any doubts that you may have. 

good luck on your search! 

Comment by Marcie on September 12, 2012 at 6:58pm

When I was looking I started with the Mayflower Corgi Club, but this is in New England. I'm assuming there is an active club in Southern California. Prices here are higher than $900. I talked with a few breeders and checked their reputations. Brains were more important to me than looks, so I decided on a breeder that shows, does herding, tracking and obedience as well as all screenings. When I bought Becca her breeder likes to say that I got her too. She has always been there for questions. Like John mentioned be prepared to jump through hoops. I had a phone interview, filled out a detailed application, and then another interview. I didn't mind, it showed how invested the breeder was.

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