Breeders that don't dock
Hi there. :] I'm looking to bring home a corgi sometime within the next year or so, and figured I'd start doing my research now. Recently I've become intrigued with Pembrokes with tails, after seeing pictures of ones from countries where tail docking is banned. I was wondering if anyone knew of any breeders here in the US that didn't dock tails as well? I know it'd probably be pretty rare, since most breeders breed for show, and tails would be non standard... But if anyone knows of any breeders that don't, please let me know. I live in Southern California, but I'm open to breeders from farther away if they're reputable and willing to ship. If fate would allow it, I would love a fluffy boy with a tail. :]
Thank you!!
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Permalink Reply by Shou on
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Thanks for the comment, Cassie. :] I'm actually getting my puppy tomorrow! He's not a fluffy, nor does he still have his tail, but I can't be happier with his breeder. So it all worked out in the end. That is good to know that some breeders will not dock on request though. I've had another breeder tell me they could do the same if I paid in full as well. I might look into when I get my 2nd pup. Thanks again!
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Problem with that approach is that they dock at just a few days old, so you don't get the benefit of the breeder matching the puppy's personality to what you are looking for. You might get a shyer dog when you need a bold one, for instance.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Amerige on
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I'm in North Carolina near Raleigh and had many years with my dog Martin, a Corgi-mix with a beautiful and expressive tail who last month passed away. I'm hoping to find a lead to someone from whom I can get a Pembroke Welsh Corgi that is undocked.
I read What a Dog's Tail Wags Really Means. It was a very interesting article.
Anyway, if anyone knows of a source, please let me know! I need a Corgi back in my life!
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Permalink Reply by Cassie, Camden, and Oaklie on
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I'm very sorry about Martin.
I'd call around and ask prospective breeders if they won't dock on request. With Camden's breeder- as long as you pay upfront prior to the litter being born, they will refrain from docking. Http://www.denningfarms.com
Sally and her sister also make arrangements for plane flights to deliver the pups out of state (at an additional cost, obviously).
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Thanks, Cassie/Camden. Martin was such a good friend. It has been a month and the ache is still there as much as the day after. I've learned through losing people in my life that time really doesn't "heal" all wounds. It may soften it a bit, but I've learned that the cost of loving deeply is grief that never truly goes away. Maybe it's just me, but that's what I've come to discover about my emotions.
That notwithstanding, I am very much looking forward to having another Corgi in my life. In my dreams, it's a male red-headed tri-color Pembroke Corgi. Tri-color is the red/brown/black combination like I see in the attached photos, right? Gosh, imagine if I use the wrong words to describe the coloration I like. But, ya know, I love all of the variations.As I'm in my mid 50's (oh, no! I'm getting old!), I'm hoping for a dog to help keep me exercised. I'm a software engineer and am stuck to my desk. I'll shortly be able to telecommute 100% of the time, so my dog will help me take breaks so we both get exercise. And, I'll be able to give lots of love over the course of the day.
Anyway, I'm on the web every day trying to see if I can find an undocked Corgi. I'm open to getting a rescue dog, too. Martin was a rescue and I couldn't have been more lucky to have him in my life.
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Hi Steve! Sorry about Martin. We never really get over missing them, but you are right that it softens a bit with time.
The two photos are different colors. Both are gorgeous Corgis. The top is a sable, with very heavy sabling. The bottom is a red-headed tri.
Getting a sable that is heavily marked is probably mostly luck. All puppies (even red-and-whites) start with a mix of colors and some sabling. It's a question of how much the sable fades as the adult coat comes in, and I'm not sure there is a really good way of predicting that.
On the other hand, a breeder will be able to tell if the pup is a tri at birth.
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Permalink Reply by Ann on
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Did you have any luck, Steve?
Our stories are similar...I had such luck in finding the perfect dog in a shelter and now I want so much to have a dog that is just the same. Finny was a black-headed tri pembroke with his tail. I can't imagine a more gorgeous or perfect boy, but finding a breeder who is willing to not dock is so difficult..which I understand since they need to conform to breed standard to show them...and they don't know which will be show potential until later. I was hoping to maybe find a breeder who isn't really into showing, but more into agility...but I'm having no luck with contacts...
I'm now considering a cardigan because as much as I really love the pembrokes I really don't like tail docking...
Just wondering if you, or anyone else, has found anything new...?
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Permalink Reply by John Wolff on
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I'd like a tail too, but the quality of the breeder is probably of overriding importance. Personality trumps appearance.
If I was in Southern California, I'd think twice about a fluffy because of the heat issue. My dogs wilt in the summer sun above timberline where there's no shade -- it's quite dramatic -- and this is the Pacific Northwest. For the same reason, I'd consider a light-colored red over a black-backed tri. I've bought Chillybuddy cooling vests for the summer sun.
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Permalink Reply by Caitlin Randolph on
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Did you have any luck? I am in Southern California as well and am looking into getting a Pem but would love to find a breeder who still health tests but wants to keep their tails!
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Permalink Reply by Donna Flynn on
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We are having our first Pem litter soon, but are on the East coast,so can't really help you, but I wanted to thank you for asking this question. As a former vet tech and a long time Corgi lover, I am having a hard time deciding whether or not to dock tails on our expected babies. I am leaning toward NOT doing it as I cannot see any good reason to do so unless one is definitely going to use them for serious herding in brush, etc. I am also not planning on doing dewclaws. I have, in my experience, seen plenty of dogs with dewclaws and tails without problems. I am breeding for pet/companion animals only, so do not feel the need to comply with outdated AKC standards. The AVMA is not in favor of routine docking, and of course several European Countries have abandoned the practice. Some would consider this "irresponsible" breeding, but I feel that our companion animals are perfect they way they were intended to be. Just my humble opinion. Good luck in your search!
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