Corgis becoming more aggressive as they get older?
the main question i'm posing (so you don't have to read so much!) is this: With two dogs female dogs of only a few weeks apart in age, different breeds, and different handlers that live together, what is the chance that the corgi will turn out to be aggressive towards the other dog? the dog in question is a german shepherd. til is 8 months and the other dog is just under 8 months (7 1/2, i think?). neither is fixed yet because we're stupid pet owners and got convinced that it was best to wait. but, it'll happen within the next two months, once my tax return comes in (because we're paying our vet for a cat related problem right now... and another cat problem... and then another cat problem... you know what? i think it's time we get rid of that cat :p).
tilly doesn't care about other dogs, for the most part. she's not aggressive, she's just a bit shy. she doesn't fancy being chased, but she will play with other dogs. she has no jealousy when it comes to me, but is SUPER attached to my hip... or should i say ankles? i can pick up, cuddle, hold, play with, feed, and even walk off with another dog and she'll just follow me or try to play with us. when faced with an aggressive dog at the dog park once, she showed submission and moved away from the dog. she was at some point attempting to be the dominant one, but that stopped about two months ago. she's pretty well trained, with ongoing training and dog park visits for socialization. we're going to start schutzhund in about a year, so of course she's really obedient with me.
the other dog, on the other hand, is a bit of a wild child. she won't leave tilly alone 80% of the time. she will tackle her, grab her buy the scruff, and hold her down. her owner says she's just playing, and has only recently taken to scolding her and pulling her away from this situation, despite what i want. she is SUPER concentrated on tilly when we go anywhere together. she's not an untrained dog, and she's by no means aggressive, she just has a super high drive and it's either fixed on tilly or a cat.
i'm just worried because i've read a lot about dogs becoming aggressive when they hit puberty and puppies that are 'friends' can become really aggressive with one another. we're prepared to work on aggressive behaviors with a personal trainer, and understand that if one dog is too aggressive, we're getting rid of her, but still. i'm just wanting to really prepare myself.
sorry this is so long. i'm a wordy birdy.
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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on
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From around one year to two all breeds are capable of starting to take over. You have two breeds that have been bred to be in charge so that increases your odds quite a bit. This would be a good time to do obedience training, google Nothing in Life is Free and begin working hard on increasing your control in a very positive manner. You and your friend should be able to call your dogs to you no matter what is going on. Also, be watchful of resource guarding and make sure you are the Alpha. I doubt that those of us that are casual dog owners can predict which dogs will become aggresive with each other but I am sure that humans can inadvertantly cause it by being careless in our relationship with the dogs.
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Permalink Reply by Emilee & Tilly on
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Both of our dogs have already gone through two levels of obedience training. We also train both with NILIF and stick to it VERY strictly. Tilly has no issues with resource guarding. Or, none that she displays. I kind of nipped that in the bud when she was a puppy. They both share toys very well, so I don't think that'll be a problem.
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Permalink Reply by Jane on
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I would not allow the GSD to bully or play too roughly with her if Tilly seems uncomfortable. I'd get in there and pull her off myself if her owner won't. If it's just play and Tilly keeps going back for more, then I would leave them be.
I would definitely keep an eye on them as they get older, but not all females fight. There are many people who have two females that live together in peace. But NILF is definitely a good idea in the mean time.
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Permalink Reply by Ludi on
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Sorry, did I read correctly and you are starting Sch with your Tilly in a year's time? That is pretty cool. :-) I didn't know corgis were suited to that type of work. As for your current situation, your dog is going to be the best guide. How is Tilly reacting when she's being scruffed and pinned and rolled around? Is she trying to sneak off in between, or snapping at the GSD's face when she gets a moment to breathe? Or is she hanging around, maybe even play-bowing or otherwise trying to entice the dog into play?
I have a Border Collie who treats Ace like a chew toy at times. She will scruff him, then drag him around by the scruff on the floor as if he were a dust mop. Honestly, her favourite bite-object is "somewhere on Ace's neck", no question. But if I see that Ace is trying to get out of the immediate area and not actively asking for more, I will tell my BC to settle and to leave Ace. Usually in a matter of minutes, the latter will feel up to playing again and start bowing and strafing in front of the former. It's important that dogs can rely on us to provide that few minutes' reprieve since sometimes their peers CAN be far too insistent. :-)
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EDIT: what the heck happened to my comment. the entire thing turned into 'mos'... agh. i'll have to rereply in a moment because i was heading out the door before i got caught up replying. my apologies!
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