Just a couple of questions if anyone has experience with either:

Hi:  This site has been so helpful I decided to post a couple of further questions : :-)  Thanks in advance if any of you have any experience/info:

  1.  Had to take my little corgi Ella (6 months soon)  to the vet for an ear infection yesterday.  He treated her with cleaning and Baytril,  but also gave her a vaccine for  Leptospirosis -  once again,  I read too late that it is controversial and some vets advise against it.  She seems OK  -  have any of you had experience with this vaccine?
  2. While at the vet she was combed and bathed (as per my request,  as they have an on site groomer)  and am now noticing her color has lightened considerably:  I bought her as a "Red Pembroke Welsh Corgi" and her head and ears still do look red, but her body Has lightened to a very pale tan (actually as a puppy it was this way ,  as per my Avatar,  but had darkened up.  Now light again)---I guess color changes are to be expected?  THANKS MUCH :-)

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Susan...yup, you owe it to your pup and to your own peace of mind.  I also found that by staying in the room I have more of an opportunity to get to know the vet.  I've been going to mine for 33 years but in the last 5-6 years he has brought in 2 other vets...he's in his 70s now.  The first time I met one of them I disliked her immensly.  After having to see her once again for an emergency for one of my cats I got to know her a little better.  She is not one you would warm up to unless you get to know her.  She now knows how much we care for our critters and I know how much her profession means to her and I happily ask to make the appointments with her.

Linda:  I have had the kind of experience with people-physicians as well:  Sometimes,  as you say,  you need to get to know them better to understand their manner.  

Bogart had his Lepto vaccination about a month ago with a booster they said was required, and no ill effects. We go on hikes and he drinks from streams and puddles, so I figured it was worth it. My vet always explains everything and I'm only apart from Bogart when they take him in the back for weight check. Everything else happens in front of me. Shoutout to Dr. Shell at Butler Creek Animal Hospital in Kennesaw, GA. Also, they are open 7 days a week which is very helpful.

I talked to my vet about the vaccine because I work in a hospital so if strange diseases happen (i.e. transferrable between people to animals) I will become in contact with it. She said that it is so rare for my area there isn't a reason to vaccinate for it. Talk to your vet about how the disease is affecting your local community and the vet will let you know whether it is a high risk disease. I did read up on that vaccine a little and the thing I don't like about it is the fact that every site I look at seems to have a different opinion on how often to vaccinate against it.

Yes, indeed,  I am going to ask him about the dangers of Lepto in our area.  What disturbs me is that I wasn't told about the vaccine,  and only noticed it later,  at home,  on the itemized bill.  I intend to discuss this with them when I take Ella to be spayed next week.

Yes that is actually a little bothersome that they would vaccinate without informing you about which ones they are giving my doc explains to me what she is doing with every shot she says this one is for --- Perhaps request they inform you through the process to avoid surprises.

   Also,  regarding my second question about the coat:  

I did research coat color changes and noticed on this website from a Pembroke breeder,  that at 6 months the red pembroke does have lighter sides than a sort of "red saddle"  on the back.  My Ella looks quite a bit like this pic:

Paisley,  that's a good analogy.   Now that my Corgi is starting to walk in the woods and poke her nose in everything,  I suppose I am glad to have the Lepto  vaccine,  and as she did not have a bad reaction,  all seems OK.  But yes,  it would be nice to be asked first by the vet. :(

Whether or not he gets the vaccine is not as important as the fact that for any non-core vaccination, your vet should be discussing the risks in your area and then let YOU decide whether or not you want it.  Lepto is rampant in some areas, not in others, and the vet should be telling you what you need to know to make an informed decision.

The only times any of my pets have been taken out of sight is for surgery or for x-rays.  Exams, shots, blood draws are all done with me there.  If they are having trouble sometimes they'll ask you to leave the room;  some pets act up more if the owner is there.  But it should not be routine to take them away.   I'd be vet-shopping, I think.

Brittany and Beth:  Yes,  I would agree that there ought to be no surprises, and yes,  the fact that leptosporiosis is a non-core vaccine which is known to be controversial,  especially for puppies,  would indicate that some sort of informing of the customer is in order.   As nice as my one vet is,  the group he belongs to seems to be aggressive and arrogant in many ways.  

Another thing to think about with the lepto vaccine is that now that she was given one vaccine it will need to be boostered in 3-4 weeks. It will be a good idea to she if she has already received this (without your consent) or if you need to booster it and if you even want to booster it.

I should add that when we took Jack to the emergency vet with a scratched eye, they took him back alone and I thought nothing of that.  At the emergency vet, most of the time the dogs are in pain or sick, the people are in a bit of a panic, and the staff (hopefully) have a lot more training and experience in dealing with upset animals.  It never occurred to me that I should go with him.  I guess it's sort of like if I went with a family member for a routine doctor's visit I would expect that I would be allowed to go in the room with them, if the patient wanted me there, but if someone is rushed to the E.R. and needs treatment, I don't want to be in the way.

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