Pembroke Welsh corgi was inseminated with semen from both a corgi and from a Great Pyrenees
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Permalink Reply by Wendt Worth Corgi's on
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Sorry Sam..after posting this I noticed you had it on your Welsh Corgi News. I think we must of posted at the same time. LOL
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Goodness! I'm surprised, though, that they didn't get the idea something was amiss and terminate the pregnancy. Hmmm. Perhaps it was not as obvious as one would assume! That's awful, regardless. Poor Corgi girl.
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I thought about that as well Beth..but at that pt. they'd only think there was Corgi pups but still the same even when my female had 8 pups in her I knew it since she was big so early. I don't like to speculate those types of things unless I was there. We can all question the scenario but I can honestly say I highly doubt they would risk the dog over pups. Have you seen this kennel? Nice dogs. Mistakes happen in medicine...Doctors nor Vets are God, they are human and for that human error happens. It is a top rated Vet clinic too. I've went with the PWCCWR for a grand tour of the place with Dr. Hutchinson. Nice whelping areas!!
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Permalink Reply by Joanna Kimball on
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There isn't a way to terminate a pregnancy in dogs that is safe or effective. Even when really disastrous mismates occur (say, your Brittany thinks your Munsterlander is terribly lovely and chews through a door) for the safety of the bitch she's allowed to whelp. The few people I know who have used a "mismate shot" (which only works very early on in the pregnancy, long before size would be obvious) say they'd never do it again.
What was done - a delivery by c-section - is the appropriate way to get large puppies safely out of a smaller bitch. There's got to be information missing from the description in the article, because the supposed consequences don't make a lot of sense. Pyr puppies are around a pound or a pound and a half; Pem puppies are 8-10 oz or so. So even if a mix puppy split the difference, it's still only a 12-oz or 14-oz puppy. If she was sectioned she obviously didn't tear her cervix or hurt her pelvis, so that couldn't have caused the bleeding. The placentas should not have been abnormal enough to cause bleeding in the implantation sites. So it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
One of my friends just had a litter of two (very much purebred) cardi puppies that were 16 oz; that's the kind of weight I used to get on Dane puppies! The bitch, who was seven, was sectioned but sailed through it and took beautiful care of her babies.
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Oh, I agree they wouldn't knowingly risk the dog over the pups! I was just thinking if she was that huge I'm surprised they didn't do an ultrasound or something and see the enormous puppies! But as I said, perhaps it is not so obvious as it would seem. I know the breeder where we got Jack mentioned one of hers was huge and they did something, I think ultrasound but don't quote me on that, and found there were 9 in the litter. I don't know what the normal process is if the mom just seems more gigantic than usual.
And certainly even a great vet can have a mistake happen at his facility! What a shame for all involved.
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Permalink Reply by Avyon on
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A very sad mix up indeed. I wish I could have seem photos of the mix pups though out of curiousity. Though I'd never wish this on a corgi every again.
People jumping straight to the puppy mill idea are just crazy... yes she would be bred but I don't think it would be inhumane or overdone. Yes there are some bad breeders out there but if this person was really in a puppy mill mind.. I don't think they would have paid to fix her and keep her after all the pain she went through. Sadly.
I don't think some people will ever be happy until all breeding has stopped.. then of course dogs would vanish and we'd be left with the overpopulation of cats ;) j/k
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Permalink Reply by Heather and Ella on
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"ending her show career because spayed or neutered dogs cannot compete in American Kennel Club shows. "
This part of the article stuck out to me. Since I don't show dogs and have no plans to, I don't know any of the rules that go along with it. Why do show dogs need to be "intact"? Is my dog any less "good" since she is spayed? I guess I don't get it.
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Show dogs are meant to be breeding prospects, and hence must be intact. Altered dogs can compete in all other AKC sanctioned events (obedience, working trials, rally, etc).
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That makes sense. I guess I look at it more in a spectator viewpoint. When I watch dog shows, I'm not looking at who would produce the nicest puppies but rather how cute/snuggly/playful the dog looks. I would definitely not make a good judge, I'd pick the dog that ran up to me and wanted a belly rub, lol.
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