Pit bulls
We were at the dog park on Sunday. there was a Pit bull there and though I was leary we went on in. almost immediately the dog started harrassing my dogs and beign agressive. The owner only called it away at which point it cam back after Daisy and sophie. It wasn't playing and I was certainly uncorfortable. We left in a span of 3 minutes and went for a walk on the green way instead.
Has anyone else had problems like this? what is the proper thing to do? The rules say that aggressive dogs should be removed but in practicality what the right thing to do and say to the owner so that we can enjoy the dog park with out fear of a dangerous breed attacking my Corgi and pup?
Has anyone else had problems like this? what is the proper thing to do? The rules say that aggressive dogs should be removed but in practicality what the right thing to do and say to the owner so that we can enjoy the dog park with out fear of a dangerous breed attacking my Corgi and pup?
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Permalink Reply by Laura Jones on
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One of my best friend's has had a pit for years. I will admit I am not a fan of the breed in general, not only because of their reputation but their looks etc just don't appeal to me personally. Anyway, when KC was a pup I used to take her with me to my friends house quite often. I kept her very close to me and we never really had a problem. But as she got older there was just something about the way he looked at her that made me stop bringing her around him and when I got Levi I only took him there once. She takes her dog pretty much everywhere with her and he rides around in the back of her truck.
Last summer, she came over to my father in law's where we were to pick up her son and had her pit in the back of her truck, not chained in. My father in law had a young St. Bernard that would get into your rig if the door was left open. He crawled into her truck to investigate, her pit came through the back window, over her children and attacked the Saint Bernard. It took six people to get them separated and she got mad that the other dog had gotten into her truck, after we had told her numerous times to not leave her doors open, and she also insisted that it was my father in laws dog that nipped her leg, started the fight etc. Couldn't have been her dog. Now I do understand her dog protecting his family and his truck against the intruder. I don't dispute that he was doing his job as far as that goes, but if she had had him tied in like he should have been then it might not have gotten out of hand. Particularly since she was going to someone else's house where she knew there was dogs. I have no doubt that the only reason there was not a serious injury or death to one of the dogs was because the saint was big enough to defend himself pretty well. If the pit had came after one of my dogs if they had been there they would have been pulverized. I guess my point is that it is definitely very often the owners and not the just the dogs that need to be reprimanded. On the other hand I have another friend with a minpin that I would not let my dogs loose with either. And my corgi KC has been known to attack other dogs of all sizes occasionally.
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Permalink Reply by Melissa and Franklin! on
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I think it mainly depends on how those dogs are getting along with all the other dogs. I know that a lot of times big dogs key in on Franklin and are very aggresssive toward him but get along fine with all the other dogs, and in this situation I am the one who has to remove my dog because, in a sense, he is the one causing the problem. If the dog is aggressive towards all the other dogs there and constantly causing problems it is totally within your right to ask the owner to remove the dog because it is being disruptive.
As stated already dogparks are really not a good idea because the dogs are forced to try to defend a territory as well as figure out a pecking order and every time a new dog is introduced all the dogs have to figure out the pecking order again. I only take Franklin when I know most of the other dogs there because we have had some pretty serious injuries, including a broken foot, from dogparks. Also, many owners who go there are super lazy and will just throw their dog in and ignore them and so those dogs tend to cause a ton of problems and the owner doesn't do anything to fix the situation
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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I have never run into this problem personally but I have to agree that often it is the owner and the dog who needs classes and training but doesn't get it. I also would say something loud enough for others to hear but if that isn't comfortable for you I would either way check with the park management and see what can be done. I have had 2 pups go to homes with Pit Bulls and they have a great life and great trained pitbull siblings...too bad some people just don't care:(
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Permalink Reply by Cindi on
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It doesn't even have to be a dog park. Fionnlagh and I walk our neighborhood a couple of times a day. On one trip in November, an intact red-nose pit jumped its fence and attacked us. I kicked it furiously all the while screaming for help. It was a good five minutes before ANYONE came out of their house to help us. NOBODY in the neighborhood helped. They wouldn't even let us use a phone to call for a friend to get me and the dog to the ER vet. We were attacked a second time just a couple of weeks later. Different route. Two dogs. One a boxer mix and the other a pit/lab. Both charged us the whole time the owner hollering "They're friendly." I don't care. I maced them. And I maced them good. Fionnlagh got right behind me and sat there trusting me to keep him safe. The owner was pissed but I really didn't care. His dogs were not on-leash (a law here) and off his property...an imminent threat to us.
Don't misunderstand. I train dogs for a living. I'm not supposed to be leery of dogs. But I'm very leery of pits. They have an incredibly strong prey drive and most owners are in no way prepared to deal with that.
I now walk with mace, a loud whistle, and a big a&& stick. I'm considering buying a cattle-prod. I've reported both owners to Animal Control. And I'm considering having my attorney contact them. The first one should have to pay for Fionn's vet bills at the very least.
And were I to be totally honest, I am now terrified to walk the neighborhood. I'm finding myself very scared in classes. It has affected me very, very deeply.
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Permalink Reply by Priscilla, CARLY, and Frankie on
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this make me sick!! i live in a neighborhood exactly like this and i have had to pick up Carly and run once .. i intentionally avoid the street right next to me because ive been warned theres a pit who has killed small animals, mostly cats.. someone has called the police but when they came they did nothing because the pit was friendly to people??? so is it ok to kill someone else's pet?
im so sorry you've got this fear now , and your dog needs to be able to walk, i do carry a stick and im thinking seriously about carrying mace as well.. a whistle is also a great idea, i just dont know if id have the wits about me to blow a whistle squirt mace and protect my dog, if in the middle of a terrifying experience.?
dont know what the answer is..
bless your heart~
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Well, there's the thing: they are a BIG terrier, and terriers have a strong prey drive. And quite a few pits see other dogs as "prey". They are what they are, and nice ones can be found, and most are good with people but many are iffy with other dogs.
We tend to apply human standards to dogs "Oh, we should not judge by breed." Well, the problem with that is that generations of selective breeding DO mean that certain breeds have a tendency for certain characteristics, or else why have breeds at all? Beagles chase rabbits, setters point birds, and many pit bulls have a strong prey/fight drive after being selectively developed for dog sports.
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Permalink Reply by David on
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Well, I think another member of MyCorgi had done worse with a pit bull encounter. People just should not keep a dog that they can not handle!
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Permalink Reply by Patti on
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First, as I have learned first hand - there are no bad breeds - just bad dog owners. There are some great pit bull owners, and some really bad chihuahua owners - and vice versa. Now the damage that a pit or other large breed dog can do to a corgi, compared to a chihuahua - well you can decide that for yourself. It is all in the training that YOU give your dog - and what YOU rely on other people giving THEIR dogs. Please read my blogs on my dog Kai and his experiences with other dogs and their owners. I have also learned the hard way what we expect the law and rules to do for those of us who are "Good" dog owners are practically impossible to enforce - and if you think about it - only apply after something horrible has happened. The lesson here is to be proactive about your pet. You can read all about my life with Kai since his 2 attacks and what we go thru on a day-by-day basis. Our vet bills to date are around maybe $8K. They will continue to grow. Kai will not have a full life. As for dog parks - I do not go to them - because I cannot evaluate the other dog owners. I have found that there are dog sports "clubs", which have an evaluation of the dogs (and the owners!) and my dogs can socialize, exercise and play safely. Now you can call me a nervous nelly, and I don't mind - but my dogs are safe now - I am safe now, my dogs play and have a great, happy life - don't they deserve that?
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oh my goodness Patti ~ i just read what happened to Kai... that is honorific!! i hope you are finding relief for him with the water therapy, i wondered when i saw you post the other day why he was having to use that kind of therapy... what a nightmare for you...and him
I am sitting here thinking why in the world would i ever think of going back to the dog park after learning these about these things happening. Our make shift dog park, is only open three days a week wed sat and sun, in the evenings because its a school playground. All the dogs love to go and run free, but it is so full of large dogs, several pits and pit mixes, American bull dogs, two large Siberian huskys that scare Carly and a couple of great danes..to name a few. the last two times i took her i had to grab her away from very lagre bull dog that would leave her alone, she doesnt back down , in fact when she starts getting scared and she growls and tries to defend herself and all the while im hollering stop! come here! so she will leave it!
She was spayed today and not going anywhere for at least two weeks but i will have to think long and hard before i risk taking her back..
your right they deserve a safe and happy life~
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Permalink Reply by Elizabeth on
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This was on corgiaddict's blog this week...the caption reads: "The unhappiest Christmas photo ever." They might think costumes suck, but at least they get along. I just love dogs. :) I bet they have a well-trained person (and nice temperaments).
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hahahahahaha love it!
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