lumps/lumpectomy on a 14 mo old corgi
Does anyone know of dietary or environmental things that could cause a very young dog to get lumps? Is this a common genetic problem found in corgis? I'd appreciate any advice - here's the details of what's going on:
We have a 14 mo old male Pembroke Welsh Corgi, that we got last christmas. last summer, we noticed two lumps/tumors in his abdominal region, we consulted with our vet, and after watching and waiting for a couple of months, had them removed in early september. one tumor was about the size of a cherry, the other the size and shape of half a hot dog.
New lumps began to form almost immediately after surgery - before Bailey was even 100% healed. On our vets advice, we have been keeping an eye on them - he said that as long as the lumps do not attach to his muscles or cause pain, they don't need to be removed right away. A lump on his left hip (about the size of a small marble) recently attached to the muscle, and is causing some discomfort, so Bailey is scheduled to go in for another lumpectomy Monday morning. I hate the idea of our little guy having to go in for surgery over and over again, and I can't imagine what is causing this. My vet is very concerned to see lumps in such a young dog, but hasn't made any suggestions for prevention.
We have a 14 mo old male Pembroke Welsh Corgi, that we got last christmas. last summer, we noticed two lumps/tumors in his abdominal region, we consulted with our vet, and after watching and waiting for a couple of months, had them removed in early september. one tumor was about the size of a cherry, the other the size and shape of half a hot dog.
New lumps began to form almost immediately after surgery - before Bailey was even 100% healed. On our vets advice, we have been keeping an eye on them - he said that as long as the lumps do not attach to his muscles or cause pain, they don't need to be removed right away. A lump on his left hip (about the size of a small marble) recently attached to the muscle, and is causing some discomfort, so Bailey is scheduled to go in for another lumpectomy Monday morning. I hate the idea of our little guy having to go in for surgery over and over again, and I can't imagine what is causing this. My vet is very concerned to see lumps in such a young dog, but hasn't made any suggestions for prevention.
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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Sorry, can't give you any advice but we hope that all goes well and we'll keep you in our thoughts! Good luck!
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Permalink Reply by Joanna Kimball on
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What are they biopsying as? Lipomas?
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Permalink Reply by Robin Witt on
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yes - I guess that is a collection of fatty cells, right?
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Permalink Reply by christy fry on
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I had one removed off of my lab when he was 2 and another popped up fairly quickly also the second time my vet suggested letting the fatty tumor reabsorb on it's own. It did reasorb after like 6 months and he hasn't had one till recently he's 8 now we had it aspirated(they stuck a needle in it and looked at the cells under a microscope) it's another one so we'll of course leave it. the size is golf ballish also.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Can you ask your vet for a referral to either a larger referral vet in your region, or a local university veterinary hospital? Joanna is very knowledgeable about health issues and may have an answer for you.
This is NOT a knock on your vet, as some rarer things are not seen often in regular practice, but if your vet cannot give you answers you may want to try to work with a specialist who can. I agree that recurring surgeries are not a happy solution.
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There are good university hospitals in the area (we live near denver), and I suppose that would be the next place to go looking for information. I thought that if it was a common problem (maybe associated with inbreeding?) someone here might have run into it before.
We were told Bailey is a purebred corgi (and he definitely looks like one), but he didn't have papers. He has an extra toe on his back left foot, so we already suspect he might not have the greatest genetics...
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Recurring fatty tumors are fairly common in some breeds, but I am not aware of it being a huge problem in Corgis, especially not young ones. Surely poorly done close breeding can cause all sorts of things to pop up, but even the best breeders in the world will occasionally get a dog with some health problem or other.
Even if it is genetic, perhaps there are some lifestyle changes that can be made to reduce his recurrence rate. Someone here might know more about it than me.
I would definitely talk with your vet about taking him to the university hospitals, or perhaps your vet can even conference with them directly; I think they typically have consulting services for vets.
Best of luck to you and Bailey. He's a handsome boy. I love the pics on your profile page. Your property is gorgeous!
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thanks. most of the pictures are from national forest areas near the house
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Permalink Reply by Carol Powers on
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Hi there; we too experienced lumps of various kinds with our little guy over the course of his lifetime. His nickname by one of the techs at our first vet was "Lumpy". ha ha; not so funny.
The soft ones are sometimes Lipomas; benign lumps of fatty tissue. Yardley (our dog) had one of these removed. We were told by our holistic vet; who treated him during the last 21 months of his life, that lipomas are caused by feeding dogs carboyhydrate. We also put our dog on a raw food diet which he thrived on until very late in the game.
The lumps should be aspirated or biopsied before you make decisions as to treatment. I think if they are not showing up internally, it's easier to deal with. But you need to be very, very watchful.
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Wow. can you tell me more about the diet??
The lump on his hip is really hurting him - he doesn't even like me to pet him there, so I think that it makes sense to get it out, even if it is benign.
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yes; we used a commercial brand of raw food that is made locally with the prescribed ratio of meat to vegetables (20% veggie to 80% organic meat); we fed him bison. We bought this in frozen packs of 8 patties - made similiarly to human hamburger patties.
We just thawed 2 patties overnight on the counter. The brand we used was Arusha but I'm not sure if they sell it in the US. Most cities now have excellent pet supply chains that sell or better yet, specialize in holistic pet foods. I would say stay away from the cheap junk kibble; it's full of grains which dogs should not have. They can't break them down. If your dog is showing signs of chronic health issues already it may be time to seriously look at holistic food choices. We wish we had earlier.
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We've been giving him a lamb and rice formula... from the higher end purina brand - so maybe not quite junk food, but definitely not gormet, either. We typically eat ground bison ourselves instead of ground beef.... hmm. If Bailey starts getting bison for dinner, we'll never manage to convince him that he's not human...
I just would much rather address health issues with diet and lifestyle changes for the pup and the people in the house! I will definitely looks into alternative food choices! Thanks so much for the help and advice!
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