Raw Diet
I have always contemplated a raw diet. Now i am really starting to look into it. My two poop 3 times a day and it starts of firm but then gets soft (no matter what kibble they are on, except food with grain and corn but then my dogs get dandruff and itchy). We were advised that they are healthy but if it is a concern still, if we switch to raw that it would help with the stool issue. But i can't figure out is how much would you feed my 20lb female and a 25lb male. So my question to raw diet owners how much in lb.'s do you feed you corgi. What other things do you add, veggies, eggs, oils? I thought raw would be easier to figure out that figuring out what kibble but there is just as many different opinions that i am confused. I know that cost wise every person is going to be different depending on where they get there meat but on average what do you raw diet owners pay a month on feeding your corgi's? I want to make sure i can afford to feed raw. Right now i pay approx $55 a month on kibble for my two corgi's combined. They get green beans, peas, carrots as well when we are having them our selves, and pure pumpkin as my boyfriend loves to eat it but never finishes a can of it on his own with out it going bad in the fridge. I have read many forums and links that have been posted here on mycorgi which is why i am starting to really consider feeding raw now.
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Permalink Reply by Melissa and Franklin! on
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I just want to caution you about going raw, I have worked at a few vets and with some veterinary specialists and out of ALL the vets I have worked for not one recommends a raw diet. They all support home cooked meals, but not raw. The reason being that eating raw meat is just as bad for your dog as it is for us as far as diseases go. We have had many pets fed raw that had to be hospitalized for at least a week to help them fight infections (such as salmonella) that they contracted from the raw diet, these disease can cause severe intenstinal issues, pancreatitis, blindness, and death if not caught in time. I would urge you to look into a home cooked diet instead, or at least cook the meat to get rid of pathogens. Also, many raw diets encourage owners to feed bones saying they are safe because wolves ate bones, etc.....thats also a crock of bull, we have also removed more than our fare share of intenstinal obstructions and had to deal with perforated GI tracts from raw bones fed as part of a raw diet. I know this is not a popular point of view because raw diets are the current fad, but I personally wouldn't risk my pets life when a home cooked meal can provide all the nutritional benefits of raw diets and you can get bone meal supplements to add to the diet instead of feeding real bone. That's just my two cents. One last thing, with deciding on a raw or home cooked diet, best person to ask is your vet or find an animal nutritionist that way they can formulate a menu that will include all the minearls and nutrients needed for a healthy diet, as I'm sure you know, you can't just feed meat and veggies and call it a balanced diet.
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Permalink Reply by Kimberlie on
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I have spoke to my vet and that is who advised me to have raw as an option not her first option but the other haven't work. I have a list of animal nutritioniast and approved suppliers for safe raw diet to reduce chances of issues from meat and bone from my vet. But every one has there own prefered way of doing raw.
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Permalink Reply by Rachael & Waffle on
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Salmonella may be a concern for animals, but only in very high amounts. The animal's digestive system is much more capable of dealing with salmonella and E. Coli than ours. If you don't feed pre-ground meat and buy meat cuts from a butcher (rather than pre-packaged) the risk of a dog contracting salmonella or E. coli is pretty small. Blockages may come from a failure to chew and crunch properly, but I've never seen a raw bone splinter.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Dogs are not as prone to it as we are, but my question that I have never seen answered is what about the people in the house? I hear basics like "Oh, just wash up well, like you would after handling food you were going to cook for yourself."
Well, ok, but let's say I picked up some raw chicken with my bare hands, put it down on the cutting board, then without washing my hands I went and used the remote to turn on the tv, rearranged the pillows on the sofa, tied my shoes, and crawled around on the rug. Then, after doing that, I went and washed my hands and sanitized my counters.
What would you think of my sanitation methods? Would you think my house was clean? Would you want to touch that remote or lay down on that pillow?
And yet... people give their dog a hunk of raw chicken, the dog eats it and has it on its snout, its lips, probably its paws, and then wanders about the house nosing things and touching things.
It really gives me pause, I must say. And again I come back to the question: if you want to do homemade, why not cook it? Dogs evolved eating human cast-offs. Wolves eat raw food, but then again, they lack thumbs. And the ability to control fire.
Wolves didn't evolve getting stitches either, but that doesn't mean letting an open would bleed out is better than stitches. And wolves didn't evolve drinking filtered, treated water, yet we all know dogs can get sick from drinking from ponds. FIltered water is better for them than the stuff they would drink in the wild.
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Permalink Reply by Jane on
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I know Joanna Kimball from Blacksheep Cardigans on this forum feeds all her dogs raw. She also has an article on her blog:
http://blacksheepcardigans.com/ruff/raw-diet/
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My dogs do not have a sensitive stomach except my girl who is sensitive to corn in any form and grain. They have got into the nastiest stuff with no problems, esspecially my boy he has an iron stomach. Before i switched to grain free Adora's stool was always on the soft side and when we switched it helped but it is still not 100%. I don't wanna start any debate over the concept of raw v.s kibble or raw v.s. cooked. I have read it all already and no kibble is working for my dogs. What i want to know is how do people that do not feed kibble reccomend? Do you add veggies, eggs, fish oils, kelp...ect?. Some nutrienist say its nessasary some say it isn't. What i want to know is what version of feeding 'non kibble' diet works best for corgi's.
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Permalink Reply by John Wolff on
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Nature's Variety makes very expensive freeze-dried raw meat patties/briquettes that I use only only extended backpacking trips (longer than a weekend). They are PERFECT for this, and probably lower-odor (dog food being excellent bear bait). You have to cut or shave them up so they absorb the water. I add vegetable oil too for extra calories.
Outward Hound collapsible dog bowl. Beef jerky is good too.
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Permalink Reply by RILEY, MAGGIE and Christine Kemp on
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Look into Primal Raw dog food. I think, if you read the list of ingredients, you will find Primal raw has everything your dog needs in it .
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The Honest Kitchen and Addiction make dehydrated raw food that I feed to Waffle. Check them out! Just add water and whatever you feel like.
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We've fed raw ever since our first corgi developed severe itching and gnawing skin lesions as a pup, possibly from corn allergens in commercial food. This disappeared promptly. In Seattle area, a company called Darwin's delivers frozen raw ground meat bricks to our door (I don't even want to know what we're paying for this). Expensive but easier than DIY. Supplemented with a tiny bit of Wellness kibble.
WARNING: Siri was a gulper, She'd swallow whole small chicken wings and drumsticks and chicken necks (the raw bones just seemed to dissolve). One bad day, she was fed a turkey neck and choked to death immediately.
WARNING: as with all raw meat, pay attention to hygiene and sanitation; Salmonella and other food poisoning organisms are always a possibility.
Check out Joanna Kimball's blog; I believe she has a section on raw meat.
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