Swollen Puppy
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Permalink Reply by Ameena Franco on
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*vet is not answering
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Permalink Reply by Rebecca on
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Could he have gotten bit by something. Being a sunday is hard to get a vet, unless there is an emergency vet clinic around. Does he seem like he is in discomfort.
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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on
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Check the phone book for an evening vet clinic. How old is your corgi?
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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Is he acting normal? Is he drinking and eating? Is this when he's laying or standing or both? Could he have gotten bitten by a bug or stung by a bee?
I would continue to call the vet...do they have an after hours's #? We have to leave a message and then the vet on call calls us back.
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Permalink Reply by Sam Tsang on
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Hi Ameena, monitor his temperature, gum colour and breathing, Jogi could have come in contact with questionable plants / bug / spider bite, use your fingers to do a run down, look for bumps, put on a headlamp and check his skin for abnormality. If things turn for the worst, you'll need to take him to the emergency vet, if your vet have previous said that Jogi is not allergic to diphenhydramine, you can give him clear colour or white tab benedryl, if Jogi is under 30lbs, you can give him 10mg every 8 hours. If he is over 30lbs, give him 25mg every 8 hours. Good luck!
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Permalink Reply by Melissa and Franklin! on
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Does he seem painful? Is he eating? If he is painful and/or not eating he needs to be seen ASAP. Please keep us posted!
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Thanks so much guys! This really helped a lot. I ended up taking him to the pet ER...which was good and bad. The good part was that Jogi wasn't bit by anything, but he just a bit of backup in his tummy. The bad part was that these people care more about money than the animals. It broke my heart to see a man leave his dog just because they would not accept his payment and would not startt treatment until they got their money. Thus poor animal had his scrotum cut open and his testicles were literally hanging out! So the man left most likely hoping they would take the dog to the SPCA to properly help him. As for Jogi's experience...well he is never going back there again! They cHeck him and the first nurse says he seems fine. I was like, "look at me being silly." then another one comes in and says his ears are broken (9 week corgi can't lift ears up yet, due to he so chunky :)) and then feels his tummy then goes oh yeah it's hard and we to get him x-rayed and on fluids pronto. I ask what's wrong and she goes "I THINK that he has something obstructing his path or he just ate a bit too much. So I let her do x-rays, which took an hour and a half. Then another nurse comes in with an extremely unpleasant attitude and goes oh yea he ate too much and is blocked up. We need to induce vomiting so some of it can get out, but some of it is ALREADY DIGESTING. I ask if it's alright if I take him home and just keep him hydrated because that's what they were going to do and not don the vomiting because she said he would be alright without it. Shesnlike oh yea, it should just pass with some time. I was like alright, give me my estimate and we will be out of here. But then ANOTHER nurse comes in and says that he needs to vomit because NOTHING WILL DIGEST AND I WILL WAKE UP TO A DEAD PUPPY IN THE MORNING IF I DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAY. Money is not an issue for me when it comes to Jogi, but I was confused because the nurse before her told me he would be alright not even 15 minutes ago. She was like noooooo. Whatever, I told her I would pay. So when it comes time to check out, a different nurse tells me he only puked a few kibble pieces out, but it was alright to still take him home...o.O so I ask, "so because he didnt vomit...am I still waking up to find my baby dead?" Her answer was, "yea it could happen. I can't promise you anything."..........I wanted to go off on this woman asking why, if Jogi was in any real danger, are you not giving me anything to help him!? But Jogi was very tired and looked so scared. (by the was, when I brought him in, he has almost literally bouncing off the walls with happiness....showed intrest in nothing afterwards.) so I payed and brought him home.
He is doing fine right now, thank God. I've given him a tablespoon of milk in one cup of water and am massaging his belly with a warm cloth which is moving his bowels. The swelling has gone down with each movement, and is drinking so much liquids that while I'm typing this, he just peed in his sleep.poor thing got scared and went to wipe his paws on my carpet. -__-" he was very active earlier and seems fine. But just make sure, I am taking him to the vet tomorrow.
Thank you all so much for your advice and well wishes. Jogi and I truly appreciate it. :)))
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Hi Ameena, if I was in your situation, here's what I would do.
1. No one else except the vet should give you medical advise, get the name of the "nurse", document the whole thing and file a formal complaint to CA VMB. Make sure she never practice again in the state of California. You are doing this for Jogi and other California dogs.
2. File a formal complaint to central california BBB, once its in the system, it'll force the business to give you a formal response / make things right.
3. Take Jogi to your regular vet and ask WHO they recommend for ER in your area, shop for a back up vet just in case.
All the best and a speedy recovery to Jogi!
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Thanks Sam...I'm so glad you were able to give advice and also hopefully stop things like this from going on. No one should have to experience this.
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Thank you so much Sam. I will do this because last night was the most disgusting thing I have ever seen, and I've seen some pretty gruesome stuff. :)
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I agree with Sam, its against the law for a nurse to give medical advice, diagnose, or prognose. If a nurse is telling you your puppy is going to die, that is giving a prognosis and she has overstepped her bounds. This sounds like a very unorganized clinic with so many "nurses" talking to you with different stories. I agree to file a complaint, if this nurse is licensed she could very well lose her license for making statements like that, however, based on her behavior, I doubt she is licensed. I used to work at an emergency vet as a technician, and as horrible as it is, you just can't treat animals without payment, it is a business and not a free clinic. However, my emergency clinic I worked at used to work with the owners as best they could to try to at least get pain medications on board if the owners couldn't afford treatment. Often we would wave the exam fee in order to give pain meds and antibiotics or else give the pain meds for free just to help the pet. This is one of the hardest parts of veterinary medicine, having to turn people away because they can't pay. However, vets have to pay their bills, we don't have a government to step in and pay the bills for people who can't pay them like we do in human medicine (although many humans also have to go without treatment due to inability to afford a doctor visit and/or medications). Its a perfect example of why you should not have a pet if you can't afford to take care of it, a pet is a privilege and people seem to forget that. In this case, this vet sounds like a less than respectable place, but even the top vets in the country won't (and can't ) provide treatment without payment, its the sad truth. In human medicine, you can't just walk into a doctors office with a broken leg, ask for an exam and treatment, and then leave without paying. You likely wouldn't even be accepted for an exam without proof of insurance. A grocery store would never give a starving homeless person who walked in a basket and say here fill this up with groceries you don't need to pay. Its the same idea. Unfortunately people seem to forget pets cost money, you have to budget for emergencies, apply for care credit, don't own a pet if you can't afford a visit to an emergency clinic at least once or twice in the pet's life. On two occasions, with two different dogs I have had to charge $2000+ in emergency vet bills. Its just part of owning a pet that many owners forget or choose to ignore. *stepping off my soapbox now* Sorry for the rant but as a veterinary technician I hate hearing statements like "they only care about the money". It simply isn't true (except maybe with this vet by the sound of your experiences!).
I just want to make you feel a bit better about Jogi's experience as well. The medication they give to induce vomiting (apomorphine) is a morphine derivative and is likely the cause of his lethargic behavior when he left the vet. His experience was likely not as traumatic as it seemed, I'm guessing you got the worse part of the bargain having to deal with these horrible techs! Did you ever even get to talk to a doctor the whole time? Glad to hear your baby is ok! Leave it to a corgi to eat too much lol.
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I understand payment needs to be given. I can totally relate. I own a store and of course I require payment. :) But, what got me was that they didn't accept checks even though they said they would over the phone. Then when he gave his word and collateral that we would bring the payment in cash first thing tomorrow when he comes to take his dog home. If they had worked with him I think would have been the best route to satisfy everyone. And that man was no saint abandoning the dog! He is just a,s, or even more, heartless.
I figured it might have been the medicine that made Jogi sleepy. But I'm glad to have clarification. Thank you. He's doing great. I think I'm the one who had the tough time. :P
Thank you so much. :))
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