teddy has found a new habit that i have been trying to break him of. he will not stop barking when playing with other dogs now. a couple times a week i go to the lake with a few friends so the dogs can play. if it is just him and Sophia he will bark a little if she runs or goes into the water. that dosnt bother me, the problem is when his favorite pal bruiser comes over to play. hes immediately wound up to the point i have to leash him because hes in his face licking him and making these little noises. once hes calm i let him go but as soon as we get a stick to throw into the water, all four dogs go into a barking frenzy. we tried to ignore the barking but the other dogs jump up to get the stick and they have made us fall down a few times. once we throw it teddy does this screaming bark that sounds like hes being murdered until bruiser runs into the water. then all teddy does is BARK BARK BARK.

i have leashed him and walked him in the other direction and as soon as he barks hes gets a correction and we walk off but the problem is he can hear me call his name and me telling him to stop but if i try to get near him he runs off. he will not let me catch him at all. even if i keep him leashed all the time he gets even more frantic because he just wants to play and practically chokes him self on his collar. 

 

is there another way i can get him to stop? i know hes just excited that he gets to play but on base there is a noise policy

 

also is him ignoring me a sign of another "stage" in his life. such as "i really dont have to listen to u" stage? i read that corgis go through two stubborn streaks in there life so i wasnt sure if that was the first sign of it

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Maddie screams if someone is throwing a ball or frisbee and she's leashed.   Jack barks non-stop if you are not throwing something he wants thrown, and his play-bark is high-pitched and piercing. 

 

I hate to say it but this is just a common Corgi trait.  It's a hard-wired behavior (they bark to move livestock) and can be very, very hard to break.  Frequently Jack will carry one toy in his mouth while he chases another, which is very cute and muffles the bark.   Maddie generally shuts up once the frisbee or ball is thrown, as long as she's able to run for it.   What I've done is modify how we play rather than try to modify how the dogs respond to it, if you see what I mean.    Four dogs and one stick is honestly inviting chaos.   If we are playing with frisbees we have one frisbee per dog.  That helps.

I wanted to add that the reason I suggest modifying how you play rather than training is this:   I've had Maddie screaming on a slack leash;  she can contain herself enough not to pull but not manage to stop the hollering.  I can have Jack on a sit-stay and actually throw a coveted toy while he allows another dog to chase it instead (this is very hard for him as he's bossy and would win out in a race for most toys if given the chance; other dogs usually back down).   And still he says "BARK! BARK! BARK! BARK!" when he's wound up playing.  

 

So for a Corgi, controlling forward movement in the middle of high excitement is easier than controlling that barking. 

i see what you are saying Beth, i guess i was taking the wrong approach to it. but i do have to say, what i was doing did help about 70% but like i said once that stick is seen, its on! the other dogs dive into the water for the stick but if one of them gets it they dont fight. all teddy wants to do is bark and chase them into the water, he could care less about the stick.

 

it is cute when they have something in there mouth and they bark, its just a cute muffled bark

The only thing I would add is to try a good long walk before the play session. Maybe that will help. If you have ever watched the herding breeds do agility you will note a very high incidence of uncontrolled barking. Very tough to break!
i have tried that:). i am usually there for a good 4hours because thats how long they play for. i get there usually two hours early  and we walk on/off leash and we play ball, he chases duck/geese (with out barking) and he goes swimming by him self. i thought he would be to tired to bark but apparently not
no way to get him to stop barking. He's a corgi and its what they do. He is likely "herding" the other dogs. Franklin does this too and just this weekend he was attacked by a boxer mix AND a lab because if his incessant barking while playing fetch. I am actually to the point where I am hoping these other dogs will teach him a lesson because nothing I have done will help. I only let him play with dogs I know because of this. If they correct him, like the lab and boxer did, its mostly just a lot of loud growling etc and no actual contact, if its dogs I don't know, he could get seriously hurt. I can get him to not bark as much when it is just me and him, but add another dog to the mix and its chaos.

I know how you feel. I think I am known at the dog park as that girl with the barking dogs. Baxter (and now Ziggy) will just bark at dogs to make them run just so they can chase. Like everyone's said so far, it's a corgi thing. Baxter never barked at home the way he does at the dog park, but we added Ziggy to the mix and now Baxter will occasionally give a single BARK to try to get Ziggy to do something.

 

How long have you been doing the leash and walking in another direction with him? I wonder if you can make it more positive for him to come over to you, if it will make it easier to redirect his attention. Baxter also went through that ignoring phase. At the dog park, I worked on calling him over to me when there isn't much of a distraction around. He would get a good treat for coming over. I would also call him over and have him sit in front of me while other interesting things were happening. He kept his concentration on me and didn't bark. We worked on that for a while and now when there is something very interesting going on or even when he's trying to bark at other dogs, he will come to me if I call. I don't know if I'd call it a stubborn steak, but for me it was just a reminder to keep up with recall practice especially in places with lots of distractions. I've also started applying the "leave it" command to dogs he's barking at that don't appear to appreciate his constant barking.

i have been doing this training for 3days now. hes made improvement but i would still like to see more, ya know? i have worked on him to come when called and the leave it command which he is great at but its just when those dogs are there he cant seem to calm down enough to listen to me=/ i just dont get how he can be off leash and come if i even make the tinest noise but if i try to get his attention with the other dogs he just barks and runs away.

I agree with Beth.  In this case you are the one that needs to modify your choice of play to what you know he can handle appropriately. The more he's allowed to bark, the more of it he will do.  Barking is what's called "a self rewarding behavior ".  In other words, they don''t have to get anything else out of it,  being able to bark is a reward in itself.

 

so im a little confused by what u are saying. i am removing teddy from the situation so he can calm down and i correct if he barks and if he is quiet i let him off and he is silent for a few but as soon as he barks i leash him again, etc. 

i mean i know that barking is rewarding so thats why i am doing this but the reason i am confused is u and Beth are saying i need to modify what i am doing, so what exactly should i do?? because i am honestly not sure what i should be doing to correct this other than what i have been doing.

 

sorry im not trying to be difficult or anything

If it were me, I would not let him off leash in that situation, once the other dogs are there, if he starts getting overly excited, chasing and barking.  Once he's put on leash, you keep him on leash and praise him for being calm (petting him and soft talk, not food).  If this is enough for him to continue being quiet, great, he can enjoy the rest of outing with you on leash.  If this is still not enough and he barks even on leash, despite your attempts to keep him quiet, then that situation is not a good one for you and your dog at this time.  You can take a break from it and try it again in a couple of months on leash and see how it goes.  Remember it's " one step forward and two steps back " so you want to avoid slipping back into the mode you don't want to encourage.   He may become less excitable with age, but that depends on his particular personality and energy level.  Part of good training is having realistic expectations.
I think they are both saying that taking him somewhere to play where the situation equals 4 dogs and 1 stick and Teddy gets to chase them and bark is maybe not the kind of situation you should let him have. Maybe you could set it up with you friends so that you all go for a really long walk around the lake together with everyone on leashes or where everyone throws a stick for their own dog so each dog is chasing its own stick instead of chasing 1 stick and chasing other dogs at the same time. Just because you are going to the lake for the dogs to play doesn't mean the ONLY way they can play is by running around all crazy like.

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