HELP! your opinion please!
your opinions on this breeder!
my friend's sister got her corgi from this breeder six years ago and she seems very satisfied with her corgi and her decision. however, i don't know if this breeder is 100% the website doesn't show or mention anything about competing with her dogs, and half of the pictures on her website won't load (i tried safari and chrome. does it work on firefox and internet explorer?) she says nothing of her "if anything were to happen at anytime i'll take the dog back" guarantee. all she says is that she'll refund full purchase price within 10 days and requires you to take the dog to the vet within 48 hours of obtainment for a health evaluation. she also says nothing of a spay/neuter contract. i dunno...... i am very eager to get a corgi but i don't want to be so eager that i settle for a breeder that is less than par. oh, and i believe my friend's sister said she got her corgi for around $400 from this person. anyway i just need your opinions on this, because i believe my excitement and eagerness might be clouding my judgment here.. what do you guys think??
p.s. i also think that the price might be clouding my judgement too. $400 is a very exciting a cheap price. i know that corgis cost more than this usually though.. (for a quality one) i have $1000 saved up already, but as i've said in a previous post, i'm a saver, not a spender, so i'm more partial to this $400 price..... =/ talk some sense into me..?!
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Permalink Reply by Yuki & Ellie on
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If it's important, for you, to get a puppy from a breeder who shows or competes with their corgis, then you should seek out a breeder with those qualifications. :) Personally, I was fine with getting a puppy from a breeder that didn't show the dogs. Ellie came from a working environment. Ellie's parents live (and work) on a farm. I'll admit I was nervous about making a mistake, but the same would have been true of any breeder I chose. In the end, everything worked out just fine. Ellie's breeder was willing and able to answer all of my questions and helped me to choose the perfect puppy for us. :)
It's hard to judge this breeder based on the site. There isn't a lot of information there to really make me feel strongly one way or the other, though I admit I'm not expert. A lot of your questions can be answered by speaking with the breeder. Send her an e-mail or give her a call and ask about her health guarantee (does she guarantee the puppy against genetic health issues, how long does she guarantee, etc.), her spay/neuter rules, if there is a written and signed contract and anything else that's on your mind. I would definitely think twice, however, if she does not provide a sale contract or a genetic guarantee. Even a pup from working parents, like Ellie, should come with at least a 1 year health guarantee and a contract.
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Permalink Reply by Bax & Zigs & Rosie on
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This poster makes an excellent point, contact the breeder and have your questions answered before you judge her based solely off her website. Some people aren't as well versed in websites and internets as others and she may not realize what information is really important to place on her site. If you are still concerned after talking with her, check out other breeders in your area and find one that you are comfortable with.
As for her dogs not competing or showing, my breeder breeds companion dogs. However that hasn't stopped Baxter and me from successfully competing in agility. It all depends on what you are looking for in a dog, but good training goes a long way. Also, my corgis were about the same price you were quoted. Good deal. =)
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Unless I'm missing something on her site, there is not enough info there for me to form an opinion. She seems to have no info on her adults or what they do. For myself, I would want a dog from either a show or competition background, or (depending on the breed) a working background. Since there are no real working Corgis in my neck of the woods, I went the show route. But again there seems to be no info either way on this breeder's site.
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Permalink Reply by Jane on
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There isn't enough info for me to really make an educated opinion. Just based off that site alone, I would say no way. There's no health information at all, nothing about where the puppies are raised (outside kennels? in the house?), nothing about what they're doing with the adult dogs, no contract info, etc. Just googling the name it also appears she sells puppies on multiple sites. I'd pass personally. The initial purchase price of the puppy may be cheap, but often times you get what you pay for.
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Permalink Reply by Kaley and Ravioli on
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Well I emailed her telling her I had questions because I at least want to give her a chance. It is possible that she doesn't have much experience with creating a website. We'll see how well she answers my important questions..
I just wish that the pictures of her dogs would load at least. My friend said her sisters dog came home with one ear up and one down and it looks like in the pictures of the puppies that do load their ears are either both down or one down. I know taping fixes this but I'd rather not have to go through the trouble. I feel like I'm being picky but I feel like I have the right to be picky. I'm choosing a companion that's going to be with me for a long time. I don't think it's a crime to be a little picky about which dog I choose..
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Well, having both ears up on a new puppy is a little TOO picky. :-) We got Maddie as a retired adult, she was a show champion and our breeder said that her ears would go down whenever it was hot til she was something around a year old (I can't remember the exact age, since I didn't write it down).
Jack came to me at one day shy of 10 weeks with both ears down. Almost ALL puppies are born with drop ears and they come up at a certain age. If you don't believe me, here's a pic of a wolf pup with down ears:http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2008/08/wolf_pups_meet.php
Many Pems and most Cardis get taped just to be safe, since by the time you realize they are not coming up on their own it is close to being too late.
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haha well what i meant was that i thought most people's corgis when they picked them up already had both ears up but i guess that was just ignorance. i suppose i didn't factor in age at which everyone takes home their dogs. for example, i guess i can see if you take your dog home at 12 weeks both ears might already be up. this breeder in particular lets her dogs go at 8 weeks so i suppose maybe thats why their ears aren't up already
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I wouldn't exclude a breeder just because the ears aren't up. That's just how the breed works, and taping is really not that bad if you have to. The PWCCA requires breeders to keep their puppies until 10 weeks, so that's probably why you usually see pem puppies with their ears already up.
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Permalink Reply by Ludi on
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Pems do have their ears up earlier than Cardis in general, and at four months I was still battling with Ace's monstrous bat-wing ears to keep them erect. That being said, if you do have to tape, it's really not a big deal and is actually a good exercise in handling your dog in unusual positions.
The others have covered most of the "issues" with this breeder already, so I'd make sure to ask the important questions. A good sign is a breeder who is knowledgeable not just about the breed, but of her own dogs like the back of her hand. Health testing information and her goal (working? show?) of breeding should be transparent.
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Permalink Reply by Melvin Brock on
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She responded to my intrest in a pup and stated they are not breeding any dogs right now and I should look elsewhere.
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Permalink Reply by Cindi on
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For me, going through the breeder list on the breed club was a god-send. PWCCA and CWCCA both have great sites and I was able to connect with a responsible breeder in good standing with both clubs. This year, our CWC's sire won BOB at Westminster! Can't get much better than that. I always recommend going through the breeder club.
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