Moving Advice
We hoped to be moving soon as we are looking to get into a house (finally) but the process is taking forever since it is a short sale and it's more involved. In the meantime, we had to go month to month on our lease since it was up in February. Well, I just found out the apartment office has rented our apartment to someone so we have to move out by march 31st (if I were any more angry I'd turn into the Hulk). Just what I needed was more stress to add to my ever growing pile. But, we just try to roll with the punches so it looks like our best option is moving in with my father in law until we hear back on the house. He lives only a couple minutes from the house we're trying to get into so that would be good. The downside is that he has a 3 year old Pembroke who hates other dogs.
We tried introducing his Pem Sammy to Finnigan when Finn was very little and again later on and it was never good. Now that Finn is one and a half and old enough to stand up for himself, it could result in a fight which I definitely don't want. So, any advice on how to handle this? Has anyone had to deal with something like this before? I really don't want to have to keep Finn crated 24 hours a day, only allowed to be free in our room when we're home. He needs room to run. Potty breaks will be another issue. They have a dog door Sammy uses but Finn will I guess have to be crated and hopefully my husband will be able to stop by on his lunch break (as I do now) and take him out. I will be too far from my work to continue with that routine.
Another concern is whether or not Finn will pee in their house. He's gotten past peeing in our apartment but he will pee in my Mom's house. I don't know if he does it because he gets so excited to be there with her Cardi, if he doesn't realize he is not supposed to pee inside anywhere not just our apartment or if he's marking.
This is very stressful and any advice is appreciated. Once we move into our own house (if that truly works out) I'm sure I'll be asking a whole new set of questions. :)
We tried introducing his Pem Sammy to Finnigan when Finn was very little and again later on and it was never good. Now that Finn is one and a half and old enough to stand up for himself, it could result in a fight which I definitely don't want. So, any advice on how to handle this? Has anyone had to deal with something like this before? I really don't want to have to keep Finn crated 24 hours a day, only allowed to be free in our room when we're home. He needs room to run. Potty breaks will be another issue. They have a dog door Sammy uses but Finn will I guess have to be crated and hopefully my husband will be able to stop by on his lunch break (as I do now) and take him out. I will be too far from my work to continue with that routine.
Another concern is whether or not Finn will pee in their house. He's gotten past peeing in our apartment but he will pee in my Mom's house. I don't know if he does it because he gets so excited to be there with her Cardi, if he doesn't realize he is not supposed to pee inside anywhere not just our apartment or if he's marking.
This is very stressful and any advice is appreciated. Once we move into our own house (if that truly works out) I'm sure I'll be asking a whole new set of questions. :)
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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Hope you get your house soon! Congratulations! I have had rescues in my home and this always takes awhile to get everything working! Is your dad's dog neutered? Not that it really matters. Does Finn kennel when you tell him to? I recently had 2 males and a female going in to heat, my male did not like the other male around but he did listen and went right to his crate. I would start by getting them out on a street walking and plan a "meet". See how they do. I also have had to put up gates(check out thrift stores!) and exercise fences(but I have 6 dogs of my own) until the dogs got used to each other.Will your dad care if you keep a leash on his dog when your there? Actually for the 1st week I would have leashes on both and someone else around when you have them both out.For Finns sake I would not ever leave them alone together. It would be safer to crate Finn in a separate room than to have them fight or even growl at his crate!.I leave a couple of my females that I know won't fight out but with a fence but I don't think I would trust the Pem...even if you can have them out together when when you're home would be a great feat. Do not feed or water together either as this could be a sore point. Yes, there could be marking. Does the dog door have a closing door so you can put one out at a time? Proceed with caution but hope for the best and it can work I've done it several times but there have been in the past a couple scuffles and I have no clue who started this...it was outside and all of a sudden my 2 pem recues were after my Wynn so even if all starts going well one "look" from the other could still set something off! Hope this makes sense!
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Permalink Reply by Alice on
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Yes, Sammy is Neutered. It's odd that he doesn't like dogs since he grew up in a house with an Australian Shepherd. The own er had to give him up due to her own health which is when my father-in-law adopted him and found that he does not like other dogs at all. When we introduced him to Finn a long time ago he growled non stop and nipped at his face a couple times. We had them leashed in the backyard then moved inside and Finn chewed on Sammy's bone which Sammy refused to touch ever again.
Finn knows to go to his crate when we say "go to bed" but that's at our house. In a new environment he may just tune us out.
Jason's dad wants us to bring Finn over to meet Sammy again. We'll do it but I know Sammy is not going to accept Finn and even if he did act ok, like you said, I would not want them left alone because if a fight broke out, Finn would be the one getting hurt physically and mentally and I don't want him scarred in any way. My husband and his dad are set on getting them to coexist peacefully where I'm more about coming up with a routine that is fair to each dog and keeps them separate. I'm thinking crate him in our room while at work (as we do now) and take him to potty at lunch then back in the crate until we're off. Sammy has access to the back yard and kitchen when no one is home but if he can be closed in a room or a dog door panel put in during Finn's potty break,that would be ok. The rest of the day Finn would have to be in our room or both of them leashed and if we can have times when one is out back and the other is roaming the house, that would be good (of course we'd have to make sure his Dad is ok with interruption their dog's routine like that). Between that and taking him for a walk, Finn should get enough time to stretch his legs, don't you think? If it doesn't work then we'll have to find somewhere else to stay.
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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on
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Leashing in the house works great. When we moved the dobe that Sparty did not like I leashed Sparty and he spent some time walking around with me until I felt he was listening when I gave him commands. I also tied the doberman to the bannister briefly until she calmed down in the house (she was used to running at will inside). It worked great and if Sparty starts to focuson her too much I just distract him. As for the peeing, I would get a good enzyeme cleaner. Usually peeing in a strange house will be triggered by spots they can smell but you can not. Also having him leashed for a few days eliminates that possibilty. Don't leave them alone unsupervised. Good luck on the house.
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I agree with not leaving them alone together. That's my biggest concern.
Leashing is a good idea. i just hope it's not too much of an inconvenience to his parents.
We could stay at my Mom's but she has Finn's half brother and when they are together for extended periods of time Finn winds up exhausted and limping. We left him there for two days recently and when I brought him home he was stiff and limping and slept all that night and the following day, just a dead sleep. he won't calm down when he's there and during the day when we're all at work it would just be the dogs and my step dad who can't keep up with the dogs. Not to mention her house is a good 45 minutes farther. This is why I hope we can make it work at his dad's.
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Permalink Reply by christy fry on
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walmart sells babygates for 10.00 that can come in handy....my sister does rescue and sometimes the dogs just can't get along of course they will swap out dogs in houses to get a good fit but my sister had Dodger for 3 weeks and him and Hunter wanted to kill each other. She bought a round play pen it's the gray plastic kind( i see these in petsmart for 80.00/90.00 dollars but if you go the the baby section you get the same thing from the same company just with a different pic. on the box) out of Fred Meyers for I think 60.00 bucks so Dodger would stay in that....both dogs were put on a routine of 1 could be out while the other was in the pen...also when Greg and I moved into our house the dogs acted stressed for a couple days but quickly figured out this was home now and were fine.. so back to the first couple days there was whining,pacing,alot of sniffing, not wanting to eat, and some loose I'm stressed out stools.
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They actually have a play pen already (possibly two) so we can use those if they are ok with it. I just feel awkward going into someone's home and asking them to pen up their dog when they are already helping us out by letting us stay there. Surely they will be able to see that it is necessary though and while both dogs may be a little anxious, neither is being mistreated by spending some time in a pen or in another room and will hopefully relax after a few days.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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I don't have much to offer except to say I'm sorry you're in such a stressful situation.
Have you tried introducing the two of them on neutral territory?
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No, just the back yard, but even when Sammy meets dogs on walks he is not friendly with them from what I've heard. We'll have to try an introduction away from the house just for kicks.
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Does you father in laws dog listen well when on a leash? What I did with my Wynn today that works well is if the 2 of you can come from different directions and stop about 3 feet apart...greet each other and move on. Turn around and come back without actually getting real close and maybe do this a few times but come a little closer each time( not all on the same day) but make the dogs sit while you talk instead of them greeting each other. The reason I did this today is Wynn tends to sometimes growl at LARGE dogs (this was a setter) but I think he did not feel pressured today as we had a healthy distance and he was asked to sit while we "talked". Just a thought!
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Yes, he seems to listen well on a leash. I'll see if we can give that a try. Thanks!
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This is the big weekend! On Saturday we move over to stay with my in laws and the test shall begin. I am going to drop Finnigan off at the groomers at 10am that day and when I pick him back up I'll take him straight to their house and crate him. He's shedding so bad right now I thought it would be the perfect time for a trip to the groomers so we don't fill someone else's house with his hair. Their Pem doesn't really shed which is a shocker. I just hope he doesn't pee in their house. It's been a very long time since he's peed in ours so hopefully if he stays calm he will be ok. We'll soon find out.
Once we're moved in, we have through Wednesday to get our apt cleaned and turn over the keys. This means removing all the puppy stains and dirt trails. Doesn't that sound like fun?
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