Just like a little kid
Alwyn is currently 5 1/2 months and although we couldn't ask for a more fantastic pup, we're really REALLY working on the barking issue. It's quite interesting actually in a sense because he's been barking a lot more now since his voice deepened over the past month or so. When he does bark unnecessarily, we are very consistent in letting him know this behavior is not appropriate by squirting him with water and/or firmly saying "Enough".
However, I was wondering if anyone else's corgis have/are doing this behavior - when we tell him not to bark he will stop but then lower his head and look at us and give a low muffled "woof" as if he's talking back to us!! It's hilarious so it's hard to keep a straight face when being stern with him but he does it every time as if to get the last word/ruff in! It's great he's showing another side to his corgi personality but has anyone else had this issue with a corgi seemingly going through their terrible 2's?
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Permalink Reply by Jennifer Markley on
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Oh, yeah. Seanna does the same thing. I do find it quite funny too! Watch the "How to talk like a Corgi" video on youtube....
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Permalink Reply by Jessie & Alwyn on
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I saw that video quite some time ago - very cute!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Joanna Kimball on
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I understand your frustration, but this is a corgi! Of course they bark; they're SUPPOSED to bark. And SUPPOSED to chase and SUPPOSED to herd and bite things.
It's not unnecessary or wrong or inappropriate; it's their job. I don't want to pick on you, but I get very depressed when people label NORMAL behavior, behavior that's been bred into the dogs for hundreds of years because it's desirable in a herding dog, as inappropriate and then punish the dog for it.
If you want to train a dog to stop barking when asked, that's absolutely fine. But we should be doing it with the knowledge that we're the weird ones, asking a herding dog not to do herding behaviors, not them. They're behaving correctly; we are the ones who decided to live in an apartment or in the suburbs.
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Joanna - My intentions of starting this discussions were only to see if any one else's corgis shared the same cute low "ruff" back talk when barking becomes out of control that my Alwyn does. Of course it's a dog's job to bark as it is to dig and fetch and a million other things. I think you completely got the wrong idea of my starting this topic. I only wanted to share a cute personality trait with others, not complain about the fact that he barks.
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Right, but you also mention squirting him and that the barking is evidence of "terrible twos" and that he's barking "unnecessarily."
Corgis are not just supposed to bark. This is not like digging and fetching. They're supposed to bark a LOT, often continuously, and at every single stimulus that goes over a certain threshold, and their stimuli involve things out of place. Like a person leaving the room, or a person arriving, or a sound from outside. A good corgi can bark a hundred times in the three minutes it takes them to get a sheep from one gate to the next.
Defining barking in these breeds as disobedience is a complete misunderstanding of what these breeds ARE. It's like people smacking Dachshunds for digging or smacking Beagles for running away. You cannot expect a dog who has been deliberately selected TO bark, and bark a TON, to think that being quiet is good and being loud is bad. We're the ones who have decided that quiet is good, and we're the ones who should be defining ourselves as being in the terrible twos. Not the dog.
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Do you usually find it standard to call everybody you make a first impression with an "idiot"? Or do you just generally like to patronize everybody because you feel you can do so behind a computer screen? I am far from naive when it comes to dog behavior, I have a close family member who is a vet, have grown up around many different types of animals, and have worked in many different shelters for a long time. Pardon me but do you have a degree in veterinary science or a PhD in Experimental Psychology? Thank you for the lesson on this breed, I'm sorry I didn't do enough research to realize what these breeds really "ARE". I guess I didn't consult enough trainers or dog breeding "experts" like yourself - pardon me. I'll thank you for not responding to this thread again. Good day.
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Permalink Reply by Alison Prasavath on
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I'm sorry the person took your question wrong. I personally think it is quite funny to know how many corgi's talk back to their parents. (And here I thought it was only Noodles that did that.)
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Thank you Allison. It's great to know I can come to a Corgi Community and see that Alwyn isn't the only one who has wonderful quirks. Another noise he makes is a Chewbaca like noise when he yawns everytime he wakes up from a nap. Absolutely adorable! He even perks his ears up when I mimic it.
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Permalink Reply by Misti, Guinness and Finnegan on
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Guinness does this too and it's so cute!
I've found this website to be so informative and nearly everyone is willing to offer helpful advice. There is no reason for rudeness. My aunt bred corgis for years (that's how we got Guinness) and while I know quite a bit about the breed, I still have questions about my dogs and their behaviors.
You should never have to feel attacked in a forum such as this. We are all corgi lovers, and most of us are just trying to help each other out!
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Permalink Reply by Barbara & Bailey on
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I had this problem and asked my trainer how to handle it, since my yelling only added to his barking. She said to wait until he's quiet for just a few seconds, then tell him "good quiet" and treat. I say "enough" like you do, and follow her suggestion when he comes up for air between barks! It is working on Bailey! The treats can gradually be omitted. Bailey does the closed mouth woof too! He wakes me up by doing it!
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Permalink Reply by RILEY, MAGGIE and Christine Kemp on
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We had to finally resort to a small tin can with pennies in it. When Riley barks unecessarily for longer than we like (having made sure there isn't an apparent reason) we shake the can and tell him "enough barking". It works, the can startles him and he stops. This method worked for our first corgi, too, with time all you will need to do is mention the words "I'll get the can" and they stop. We especially didn't like the barking at us. Riley stopped barking at us with a few uses of the can. (He will go lay by the door if he needs to go out instead of barking.) Riley isn't discouraged from barking at cats in the yard or people driving or walking on the street or someone at the door. This is a method you will need to fit to your personal likes and dislikes, but be consistent !!! Some pups are very sensitive and this will scare them too much...I wouldn't use this method.
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I love this idea! Thank you Riley and Christine!
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