Doubt this will happen...
2 people have sent me this:)
Corgis, aka the cutest dogs on the planet, may become endangered (http://now.msn.com/pembroke-welsh-corgis-may-become-endangered#scps...
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Permalink Reply by Linda on
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Jane....I know! I just wish they could be born without tails so it wouldn't have to be done to keep the Pembroke look. I have only seen pictures of Pems with tails, never met one in person, but they sure look good that way too. My corgis are the first dogs I've had without tails, took me some getting use to a tail-less dog. I know I hate the ear cropping and really do have very mixed emotions about the tails. We all love their bunny butts but tails are really cute too.
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Permalink Reply by Holly on
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If accurate I got the answer from a breeder that some PWCs are born without tails, some with half-tails or nubs, and some with full tails. I had heard of fluffies, but there is also a term, which I forget, for short-haired PWCs that are considered, for lack of a better term, flawed. I forget the technical term for the various "defective" characteristics. Sully was born without a tail, which seems to be desirable, but she also has very subtle markings and very soft, but short hair, which may be how she ended up on the discount shelf. I think she is beautiful of course, but I am a biased owner, not a show dog judge :-D
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Permalink Reply by Brian D Graham on
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I think it will be a sad day when there are no Corgi's it has become the law here in Australia that the docking of tails is illegal!!!. I have grown up with Pembroke Corgi's my entire life and I sorry to say that somehow they just don't look right with a tail. My old vet of 30 years agrees with me on this point. You don't see many Corgi's around though I will be out walking Oscar & Sam and people will always say that it is good to see a Corgi!. It makes me feel proud as a Corgi owner that after all these year people still recognise the breed!.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Personally I would prefer if the breed standard allowed any type of tail (natural bob, full length, or docked) to let breeders and buyers make up their own minds. In all honesty, with all the huge animal welfare issues (including factory farming and the number of pet dogs who are obese with very little exercise), I'm not sure why docking stood out as something that needed legal intervention. I've researched it as much as I could and it seems that for most pups, the pain is fleeting with no lasting effects.
It just seems to me that the big push for anti-docking was a case of looking for a problem where none existed, and it's ironic that in an age where so many people choose to have surgery to alter their own looks, they decided that this relatively minor procedure in dogs was just the line in the sand that should never be crossed.
I dunno. Personally I'd love a tailed Pem. I abhor ear-cropping (which is not even in the same league as docking) but I truly believe people should have the choice, and I've read some horror stories of hunting dogs after the docking bans having non-healing tail injuries that require adult amputation, sometimes multiple amputations because the original refuses to heal.
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Beth....I talked to 2 vets about docking. I worked for a steel fabrication shop at one time, we had 2 dobies..both with long tails and floppy ears at the shop...supposedly guarddogs. Yeahsureright...they were the biggest mushes ever. Male and female...the owner chose to breed them twice. Both times the tails were docked at the vets...I had to take one of the litters over to have it done. He told me that at that age it is a very quick and minor pain. I also asked my vet about it, he told me the same thing. Ear cropping is a whole different story.
I wish, like you, that Pems would be accepted in any form. Neither of mine have any tail stump at all...I don't know if they were born that way or docked. I think that's why I have such a confusion about doing it. A pem is a pem no matter what the tail is like, it does not change their personality.
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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I agree Linda(and Beth) let people chose and allow all. Personally I don't like the show dock as I can't even see mine wag their tails. Livvy has a short stub that she raises and I can at least see when it wags wildly:) I LOVE my tailed Pems (and many others do too)...change is hard but choice is good! I have gotten some nasty comments from a few die-hard show people about my tailed Corgis..."whatever"...I guess I'm not "good" at following the rules!
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Permalink Reply by Julia on
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So how many corgis are there in other countries? I'm guessing the US and Japan have more, and if it's the docking ban causing the decrease, then the numbers in the US should stay high or grow, right? Any stats on that?
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Jame...I'm not good with rules either. I may be partial about this but I don't see why fluffies also can't be allowed. They are beautiful dogs and a good groomer can keep them looking meat but still like a fluffy, ours sure does. The picture I use here was taken by our groomer while she was taking care of the 2 dogs while we were away. She blew it up and framed it for me and also uses if on her website.
Other breeds are shown with different coats...doxies have 3 different coats and even tho most people think of them as only a pet they are hunting dogs.
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Permalink Reply by John Wolff on
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I do not get this. I think Pems look maimed without their tails, and every time I see Al eagerly wagging his nub at me, I think I'm missing something. I love the look of Pems with their lovely tails. Also, it looks like my dogs are looking for something to keep their nose warm when they curl up under the mountain sky.
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Holly...neither of mine were born with tails either. There is absolutely nothing at all at the butt to indicate there was even a nub.
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I was also told when I adopted her that she was born sans tail. I hope that is true. Since she is clearly not a show dog and would not have been sellable, I doubt the breeder did any additional procedures, but I did not know her as a puppy.
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Normally tails are docked at less than 48 hours. Many breeders dock them their selves. If your breeder did dock(or vet) they would have done them all plus normally will also do dew claws(at least the back ones). Most breeder will keep a couple pups back for themselves and decide later which ones might go on to be shown. At such young ages it would be hard to tell much other than if it's a color they don't want.
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