Spaying my Female Corgi
We adopted Mic when she was 8 weeks old and she is now already 14 weeks old and adapting pretty fine with her new environment. She also gets along pretty well with other people and dogs.She weighs around 4 kg (9,7 pounds) which I think is fine.
On to the topic, I am planning to adopt another dog preferably male corgi as her companion when she hit one year of age but I do not intend to breed them. So I consulted with my vet and she suggested an ovary sparing spay in which only the uterus is removed leaving the ovary because the ovary is still crucial in producing hormones for her muscle and bone development. She would lose her ability to breed but she would still go into heat cycle like any unfixed female dogs. She suggested to do this when she is 7 months of age. I do not really like this idea because if Mic was in heat the male dog would still be able to "sense" it and would still want to mount her.
Therefore the solution that I thought of is to neuter the male corgi when he is 7 or 8 months old. But I heard that neutering the male at such a young age will affect his growth (his legs could become longer and leggier). Same could also happen to female corgi if a "Full" spay is performed meaning the ovary is also removed. Or maybe I should fully spay my female corgi when she is 1.5 years old when she stop developing and neuter the male corgi at the same age? When does corgi really stop growing in height and length and just start filling up? This creates such a confusion for me.
Any advice from lovely members of mycorgi will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Regardless of what you may have heard, some neutered males are still capable of mating and "tying" with a female. Of course there won't be puppies, but there can be injuries. Other neutered males don't seem to care about females at all.
My male Corgi was neutered at 6 months. He is impossible around a female in heat. He drools, tries to mount, gets all glassy-eyed. I am not sure I'd want him to share a household with a female coming into heat.
You can try it and see what they are like, but for me, personally, I would do a full spay on the female well before the male's hormones start to kick in.
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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I agree with Beth. I was shocked when my Aussie who I'd neutred hooked up with one of my females in heat:( Never thought it could happen... I was wrong !!!
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Permalink Reply by Oktavian Putra Agusta on
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Thank you for your replies Beth and Jane. At what age will Corgi usually stop growing in height and length so that when neutering/spaying them at that age will not affect their growth? I heard that neutering/spaying them too early can cause them to be bigger or taller and have longer legs.
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Permalink Reply by Vicky Hay on
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Ditto Beth's remarks.
Pending my own surgery, which was slated right as Ruby the Corgi Puppy was to turn 7 1/2 months, my vet and I decided to spay Ruby right at 7 months, lest she come into heat while I was flat on my back. So far, exactly zero ill effects. In fact, Ruby acted like nothing happened...just went barreling on about her business.
I also was worried that she might not reach her full normal growth. But that doesn't appear to be the case. In just the few weeks since then, she's continued to grow apace and is now about 2/3 as big as Cassie. Her proportions remain normal. Her legs seem not to be growing any faster than the rest of her body...she looks like a normally proportioned, healthy corgi. I very much doubt if the full spay at 7 months is going to harm her over the long run.
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Right!! Thank you very much. May I know how old Cassie is when Ruby was 7 months, what was her weight? I assume Cassie is female yeah?
Do you have any problem with them since they are both females? I heard that female corgi can be very bossy and two females can have problem living together. This is the reason why I want to get male corgi as my second dog.
Well as a dog owner I am very alpha and strict disciplinarian with my dog so I guess having two females will not be a problem as long as I can control them. What do you think?
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Cassie is now about 7 1/2 years old; Ruby is about 7 1/2 months. Cassie weighs 23 to 25 pounds.
The relationship between two female dogs (of any breed) is definitely different from that between a male and a female. If I were to do it over, I would definitely get a male. These two don't fight, but Cassie, who formerly was the Queen of the Universe, is pretty beaten down and I'm not crazy about that. I got a female because in my experience male urine is stronger smelling; I have a pool that I use every day during the summer and I didn't want the backyard reeking of dog pee.
This was mooted by the fact that Ruby appears to be almost untrainable in that department -- she has turned my house into a lake of urine. Right now she's leashed to my chair so that she can't sneak off and deposit more gifts for me to clean up. Everywhere I go in the house, this dog has to be on a leash, in an X-pen, or inside a cage.
During my lifetime I've had eight puppies, and I've never had one before that I could not housetrain in short order, and so I doubt the problem is the result of my ignorance of the process. They say corgis can be very stubborn, and if this is a reflection of that trait, I'd say it's true in spades.
If you have any concern at all (and it sounds like you may), get a male.
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I am also a strict disciplinarian and have had several females in my home together. I much prefer the combo of male/female. I have had my females fight. I have 4 male dogs and one female right now and the males just get along better than females do. This does depend on personality also.
Corgis mature slowly since they are a large breed dog but they should have their height and length by a year but more than likely you will have heat cycle in there. I agree with Beth that even if you have her spayed when you get a young pup...that should be OK.
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Most Corgis are structurally mature by about 18 months or so, give or take. Some still fill out in the chest area til nearer 2 years old, but most are mature before that.
With Corgis, I would not get two females. One of each sex or two males is a better bet.
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Thanks for the replies. Based on your replies I think it is safer for me to spay her after one year of age (after her first heat cycle) to ensure she has finished her growth in length and height. The males will not have his hormone kicking in before she gets spayed.
I believe I would get a male now as it is a safer bet.
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Permalink Reply by Jane on
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If they were my dogs I would spay the female at ~6 months before her first heat as it reduces the chances of mammary cancer, and neuter the male at around 1 year old.
Regarding the potential legginess of neutering early, here is what the AVMA says in their article:
Timing of closure of the physes of long bones is controlled in part by gonadal hormones. In both dogs and cats, gonadectomy at any age prior to phy-seal closure delays that closure and is associated with statistically significant, although not readily visible or clinically relevant, lengthening of associated long bones.
You can read more articles here:
https://www.avma.org/news/journals/collections/pages/avma-collectio...
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Thanks for all you replies. Last question, does spaying affect her coat color?
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