Hi Everyone,

I am new here and new to corgis so I would really really appreciate your thoughts. In advance I apologize for the essay.

My background:

I have always loved animals since I was young, be it chicken, rabbits, cats, turtles, dogs, etc. I have always lived with dogs during childhood although I did not personally take full responsibility of it, we usually share between each family member, currently I take full responsibility owning a rabbit. so if i own a dog it will be the first time I take full responsibility for it.

How I came to love corgi:

as mentioned I have always loved dogs regardless of the breed, although big-giant breed size does intimidate me a little, but I never favor/obsessed a certain breed. However! as soon as I saw a corgi I feel "this is the one!"

My situation:

I want to have a dog (pretty dead set on getting a corgi) in future when everything settle down. Since I currently do not have the time to have a dog and I want to make sure I own a dog responsibly and commit to give the best to it. So I have been researching literally almost everything about corgi including general guide to owning a dog. 

My problem:

After loads of research about corgi traits, I am confident I can handle with most of them except two:

STUBBORNESS and high pitched BARKING

1> stubbornness, I know that proper training can "fix" this problem and that establishing the pack leader role is essential, however I found that a lot of people here even the most experienced one on corgi has problem with their stubbornness. for example planting feet on walks, ignoring commands....although I know this vary from dogs to dogs but betting entirely on "I hope I get the dog that obeys more that the other" is not a good plan. I want an obedient dog....

2> The reason why I avoid a small breed is because of their high pitched barking and I know that some corgis have really high pitched bark and that they bark A LOT. again, betting on getting a corgi that doesn't bark a lot is a unreliable gamble. I don't mind a low pitch bark, though.

So based on the 2 problem I mentioned, do you think a corgi is suitable for me? are these two setbacks workable? or are they a red flag as to not get a corgi? I really really really want one but I am might reluctantly drop the idea if you think a corgi is not suitable for me.

Ps: Pardon me if I say anything inappropriate, it is unintentional

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You might want to read the discussion or blog on here..."so you think you want a corgi" I hope that's the title. Do you have access to a positive training facility? All the training and socializing you do with a young pup and the consistency should take care of the "problems" maybe not so much of the barking...as a pup you as an owner will have to work through some of these issues. Consistency is a main ingredient to a well trained dog and you will need to teach the "words" for the actions. As for things such as planting their feet...a pup will do this but with "training" this can be learned. As a pup this will happen and you would be the one helping the dog learn as if you have a martingale collar and just keep walking or turn and go the other direction he/she will learn to do the same...if you stop every time...a pup will learn they can do that. Sage waits for me to give her the "OK" to go in and out of the door...I sometimes forget why she is standing there...haha!

So my thought is ...if you have the time to take classes and can be consistent in a positive manner(maybe sometimes...a planned ignore)...then a corgi is doable. Also regular exercise and playtime to keep them healthy! 

Good day,

 

It might be hard for anyone to make an opinion based on the infromation you're providing.  You seem to have your heart at the right place and your love of animal will go a long way for sure.    My position on what you mentionned is that the stuborness is something to consider but can be address through patience and good training.   I wouldn't want a dog that would obey my command like a robot withouth any and flinching individuallity.   I personally love that Wally sometimes tells me:  "I don't feel like going for a walk"  or "I want to rest now for a bit if you don't mind"...  "I'm really interested in what's in those bushes over there".  

Sure I'm improvising but it fun to have a pup that shows his personality and fun time in discovering with him, provided that he doesn't put himself in harms way.    Hey I don't feel like getting him in the morning and I didn't like when my parents would tell me early Sunday morning:  "Time to get up and clean" while blasting church music.     :)        So I'm not expecting complete obediance, but rather he tells me sometimes where he would like to go and do.   But I'm the one that makes the decision, sometimes I let him pick the direction he wants to do at the intersection or branching in the trails.... Why not?

 

High Pitch Bark?   I didn't know Corgis had some.     Wally does bark loudly but not high pitch.   Sure it surprises us sometimes but he's the best guard dog ever.   Any changes in the street to something passing by and he'll tell you something's out of place.    The other day he freaked out because of backpack was on the side of the stairs.   He didn't know where it came from and he was letting you know he was uneasy at it.    Instead of scolding him for barking I approached it and coaxed it to come check it out.   He was still worry so I moved it, simple.   

There's alway a way to make things simple and easier for both of you.   But since you have time, I would suggest to speak with breeders, visit kennels or spend time at a local dog park if you can be around Corgis.   It's the best way to learn IMO.

Cassie is very shrill, and she does bark a lot. That's how I got her: her former humans consigned her to the dog pound, complaining that she barks.

Ruby the Pup doesn't bark much...yet. But when she imagines she's detected a Threat, she really goes into fire-siren mode: loud and high-pitched.

I've found that squirting Cassie with plain, clean, cold water will interrupt the yapfest. Temporarily.

http://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/so-you-think-you-want-a-corgi

You should just assume you are going to end up with a barker, if that thought makes you say no way, then you have your answer!   There are corgis that are less barky than others but there is really no way of knowing that until your corgi is completely grown of course. 

Hope this faq helps you.

It's not just corgis who can be stubborn....I've had Irish wolfhounds who would just lay down in the middle of a walk and say I ain't moving.  You don't move a 125lb dog easily.  I've had mutts that could be stubborn with the best of them.  I've had dogs who couldn't do what I asked of them fast enough.  Corgis are NOT small dogs with a high pitched bark.  They are full sized dogs with short legs and a full on bark.  I have a chi that lives behind me and he drives me crazy with his high pitched yapping.  But if you hear my dogs barking on the other side of the front door you're going to assume I have big dogs.

I have 2 corgis, my male is smart as a whip and does what I ask....most of the time but he is an excellent watch dog and I expect him to be..that's part of his job around here.  My female hardly barks and bless her heart...as dumb as a box of rocks.

Jane has given good advice and hopefully reading those links will help you decide.

Good to hear that corgis bark is that of a big dog, because I don't mind a big dog bark but I hate a small dog high-pitched yapping (I babysit a poodle for several months and his yapping drives me crazy!) Thanks for the input though :)

:)
I've never heard of a High Pitch Corgi but they might exist.   Although I would assume it would be a mix breed with a smaller yelper, a Papillion or the Nova Scotia Duck Toller (sound of cat going in wood chipper).    :)

 

I laughed at your description of your dogs: my pair are the exact opposite: my female Bella is the smart one, and Dougal the male....well at least he is good to look at!

Mine have very deep alert barks, but their excited play bark can be a bit like nails on a chalkboard: a bit piercing and very hard to get them to stop.

Corgis are NOT blindly obedient. Not all dogs are bred to be. Corgis were indendent farm dogs who did their jobs without a large amount of human direction, and so they have their own ideas. I always think of it as negotiating with them instead of forcing them to obey. I want them to understand my idea is best for all. Personally I like that they express their own opinions, but that's not for everyone. The breeder we got ours from said never get a Corgi if your main goal is a brilliant Obedience dog. They are famous for giving a perfect round one day, then quitting on you the next.

Good luck in your decision!

Well said Beth,
I like your point of view.

Most definitely well said, at least from my much more limited experience... I call it the "what's in it for me look" when Chewey appears to be deciding whether or not he wants to listen...

Beth said it perfectly.

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