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Permalink Reply by Denis J. on January 26, 2015 at 12:01pm

I agree with all the post, mainly with the risks of abuse towards the dog and for the children as well.   Your dog certainly certainly needs structure and training, for either basic commands but also to behave around the home.   I'm glad to see that he's getting along with the cats but for around children should not be an option, unless you've completed a behavioral dog training course and applied the teachings.

Anger brings Anger and hates bring hates.. we all know this.  
So unless you can commit yourself to providing the time, exercise, play and socializing your pup's needs, he deserves to be in a home that can provide this for him.    By all means, I hope you'll take all recommendations from these posts and talk to your local vet or breeder in order to make a decision for what's best for him and your family.

Good luck

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Permalink Reply by Ivy on January 26, 2015 at 1:47pm

I agree with susan that this is likely a troll, but the scenario does illustrate the need to pick a dog breed that fits your lifestyle. A busy family without lots of time to dedicate to dog activities, that hate barking, that don't want to be in charge but just spoil the dog - you can hardly pick a worse place for a corgi! The breed traits don't fit.

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Permalink Reply by Holly on January 26, 2015 at 6:01pm

I actually thought Javier was just very young and his parents were too "old school" to see that they were not helping. The behavior that was abusive occurred when a small grandchild was being bitten so I hoped it was a one time, unexpected, reactionary response. I have heard of this type of behavior before in a pet owner but I also assume this owner and his parents are not able to put any suggestions to use. I am not sure if the culture in his home country is that far removed from most of ours in the US, Canada and Europe, but I would be happier if I could write him off as a troll rather than a young man who is unable to see the world from his dog's eyes.

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Permalink Reply by Beth on January 26, 2015 at 3:06pm

If you cannot train a dog to sit, then you need help in the form of a trainer to teach you how to train a dog before you can fix any behavioral problems. But as others have said, this sounds like an abusive situation (who kicks a dog????). Poor thing.

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Permalink Reply by Javier del Rios on January 27, 2015 at 7:12am

I am not a "troll", I came here for some helpful advise and instead of that I am being attacked and disrespected, I´ve suffered through plenty of bullying in schoolso I don´t need to get some more here, so this is going to be my last post here and I will unsubscribe from the topic so I no longer receive any further updates.

You tell me that my father would abuse his own grandaughters (he´s never raised a hand against them and never will), that I am going to be an abusive father myself and that I am not fit to raise a dog and that I should give him up to a shelter.

I have raised 2 perfectly adjusted (if a little spoiled) dogs and I never trained them to do anything, so that is why I wouldn´t know how to begin training my corgi. I never trained them because all I require from a dog (other than some basic obedience -coming when called, knowing the meaning of no and the like) is companionship and unconditional love, which they provided in spades. I just needed some help in getting Ryuk to obey some basic commands, stop barking quite so much and maybe get through his fear of loud noised.

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Permalink Reply by Beth on January 27, 2015 at 8:35am

Ok, but I posted a link to a detailed discussion on how to teach a dog to come when called and you gave not a single comment or feedback. We suggested nothing in life is free and you said you can't do that because he doesn't know any commands. So we gave you feedback and you did not seem open to it. And you say someone kicked the dog and you threaten him with rolled up papers. Here, that is considered abusive behavior. I realize different cultures are different. But your dog has shown you by his behavior that HE thinks it's abusive too.

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Permalink Reply by Holly on January 27, 2015 at 12:39pm

You did get some good advice but I also understand, to some extent, the reaction your father had to seeing a dog biting his grandchild. I would like to think I would never kick a dog for ANY reason, but a small dog on a leash once got away from its owner, ran up and started biting my dog. I was so startled and alarmed that I grabbed its leash and literally hung it in the air for a few seconds before my senses kicked in and I set it down. I can't say I wouldn't have kicked a bigger dog. If I did kick a dog, for any reason other than to save life, I would feel responsible for helping it get over the trauma and learn to trust humans again. The Mama bear instinct is real and hard to ignore; but learning to be a better pet owner is something I think everyone should do.

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Permalink Reply by susan on January 27, 2015 at 1:36pm

If all you describe is true, and you actually don't know how to train a dog in the most basic commands, then I can't stress enough that a corgi is simply not the right dog for you. Corgis are highly intelligent dogs and REQUIRE consistent and positive training. They need an owner that will firmly and kindly provide the rules to live by and give them significant excersize and mental stimulation. If they do not get these things they will become unruly and unmanageable and unhappy. It seems that is the situation you are in. As I said in my previous post, the kindest thing you could do for this dog is find him a home with someone that knows corgi's and knows how to work with them. In my mind it would be cruel if you kept him, given your lack of understanding of the breed and basic dog training. This is not bullying you. This is my most heartfelt advise for the good of your dog.

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Permalink Reply by Beth on January 27, 2015 at 3:13pm

This bears repeating:

http://mycorgi.com/forum/topics/so-you-think-you-want-a-corgi


Corgis are working dogs, bred to do a job all day. If they don't have a real job (such as ratter for a working farm), they need regular training, regular exercise, and a sense of purpose. Left to their own devices, they tend to get out of control.

This case is, sadly, an example of the wrong dog in the wrong place. The owners love their animals and just want a dog to hang out and be friendly. The Corgi needs a job, needs activity, needs consistency and training and something productive to do. The dog thinks he is doing the right think by alerting to bells and alarms but the owners find it maddening. The dog is nipping because he's not been taught otherwise. The dog has no structure.

And as a result, the owners and dog are all unhappy. :-(

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Permalink Reply by Appa and Iroh on January 30, 2015 at 4:04pm

I don't know if the original poster is still subscribed but if so I'd just like to say I think the people who have been posting advice are just concerned for the dog's health and well being. We're all dog lovers here and we love our corgis. Beth is right when she says corgis need to be trained/they are working dogs. Asking your dog to do something before you play with him isn't making him beg. In the natural world dogs/pack animals have to work for their food. They have to surrender to the alpha and if there is no alpha--they will try to fill that spot. They do not respond to "unstable" behavior. Dogs that have bad/unstable behaviors are not followed as pack leaders--and neither are humans that appear unstable to them. 

I love Cesar Millan's books. His methods don't always work for me because I have trouble exuding the assertiveness he talks about...but they have definitely given me a little insight into the doggie mind. "How to raise the perfect dog" was a good book and I felt like I learned a lot from it. Don't give up on him! And don't give up trying to train him. And it's true that yelling doesn't help (guilty of yelling at my pups sometimes too when I find them doing something they're not , supposed to--and it NEVER works/NEVER helps. ...it doesn't even make ME feel better to yell out of frustration because then I feel bad for yelling at the dog.) it doesn't TEACH them anything. They just wonder "why are you being loud and angry?" 

Anyway. I really hope you try to take these posts objectively and try to find bits of advice that you think you can at least try (consistently for a decent amount of time to see if it makes a difference--training/behavior change unfortunately doesn't happen overnight). I've not liked some of the responses I've gotten sometimes...but that doesn't mean there wasn't some truth to them. 

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Permalink Reply by Appa and Iroh on January 30, 2015 at 4:14pm

Also--this book might be helpful: Cesar's Rules: Your Way to Train a Well-Behaved Dog

The first part of the description sounds like the original post

"Your dog just doesn’t seem to listen. You’ve been through obedience training, but he still can’t seem to master the most basic commands. And nothing you do seems to prevent him from misbehaving. “Clients usually come to me when their dogs are ruining their lives, not when they won’t sit,” says Cesar. “But everywhere I go, people are telling me they are confused about the wide variety of training options and theories out there, and they feel paralyzed because they don’t know which to choose.” 

Now, in his usual straightforward, confident manner, Cesar takes on the topic of training for the first time, by explaining the importance of balance as the foundation for a healthy relationship between you and your dog. In order to provide a variety of training options, he calls upon some of the foremost experts in the field to offer their advice so that you can find the perfect approach that works for you and your dog through a variety of methods. 

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Permalink Reply by Chloe's parent Liz on February 1, 2015 at 1:18am

You should be able to find some type of low cost spay or neuter clinic.  Your dog's health will benefit.  Prostate issues are generally avoided with neutered dogs. 

Did you purchase him from a breeder?  You and your dog and family need training. If you cannot afford training check out libraries, Your dog should not be kicked, yelled at or threatened. A trained dog is a confident dog.

Also check out Victoria Stillwell, she trains in a positive manner..  

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