Corgi Hybrids
It's become a very popular thing to create designer dogs or hybrids. While there are a couple that have been around for quite some time such as the Cockapoo, most are relatively new. Examples of such dogs would be the Puggle (Pug+Beagle) or Labradoodle (Labrador+Poodle). Of course the Corgis could not be left out of this quest for a better breed and there are new models in the works as we speak (though none have caught on yet). I think Corgis are perfect the way they are and I'm sure others here would agree, but nothing is ever good enough for some. Here are some of the Corgi hybrids I've encountered. Please share any that you are aware of, or just voice your opinion on the topic of hybrid breeding.
Shorgi (Cardigan or Pembroke Corgi+Shih-tzu)
Copica (Cardigan or Pembroke Corgi+Cockapoo)
Others include:
Augi (Australian Shep. + Cardi or Pem Corgi)
Cava-Corgi (Cavalier King Charles Snapiel+ Pembroke Corgi)
Corgidor (Labrador+Pembroke Corgi)
Chigi (Chihuahua+Cardi or Pem Corgi)
Dorgi (Dachshund+cardi or Pem Corgi)
Corillon (Papillon+Pembroke Corgi)
Shorgi (Cardigan or Pembroke Corgi+Shih-tzu)
Copica (Cardigan or Pembroke Corgi+Cockapoo)
Others include:
Augi (Australian Shep. + Cardi or Pem Corgi)
Cava-Corgi (Cavalier King Charles Snapiel+ Pembroke Corgi)
Corgidor (Labrador+Pembroke Corgi)
Chigi (Chihuahua+Cardi or Pem Corgi)
Dorgi (Dachshund+cardi or Pem Corgi)
Corillon (Papillon+Pembroke Corgi)
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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I would guess he has some Min Pin thrown in there, personally. Very cute!
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Permalink Reply by Lucy & Ricky (Wendy/Jack ) on
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Your guys are just adorable...crawl under you skin and stay forever adorable. And good for you for getting a rescue. He's a lucky guy. BTW, Lucy is 19 lbs. She's a Pembroke & for what it's worth in terms of normal Corgi weight, both her parents are champions, as is almost every ancestor on her pedigree. Certainly a much better pedigree than mine!
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Permalink Reply by John Wolff on
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Loki's quite interesting; not far from my "fantasy dog". When I do thought-experiments, I come up with a dog with prick ears, a tail, not much larger body, and somewhat longer legs. Something like Loki, or Anne Pinkerton's dog Trixie (suspected to be Cardi x Border Collie... a Border Cardi?) Anne Rinkerton
I would want to keep the Pembroke personality and coat.
I think there is a place for intelligent, careful experimentation by people with an idea in mind. Always risky; if we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be "research".
And geneticists do talk about "hybrid vigor".
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Permalink Reply by Ashley on
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This is interesting.. I mean the dogs are cute, but I think corgis are unique already and don't need all of that. So I agree with you!
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Permalink Reply by RILEY, MAGGIE and Christine Kemp on
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I think it is such a shame that we haven't kept the Corgi breed pure! I'm thinking that alot of these corgis used for X breeding are stolen dogs! I didn't read all of your comments...that has probably been said before. Whatever happened to keeping the Corgi breed underwraps (so to speak) to keep the population small? Supply and demand, I guess. I'm sorry to offend anyone...I'm just too outspoken!
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Permalink Reply by Alice on
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Breeders help preserve the breed which is why I will always argue that there is nothing wrong with breeders, as long as they are responsible and are doing it for the right reasons. These breeders who are intentionally cross-breeding I do have a problem with and as you said, if someone wants a mutt, they should get a rescue dog. Corgis are wonderful and a part of me wants to share them with the world and another part of me wants to keep them a secret because we have all seen what ends up happening to popular breeds and it's unfortunate.
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Permalink Reply by Sheila Wiggins on
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well you might know JD is a 3/4 Cardi corgi and 1/4 blue healer. but he dont look to different than other corgies just a lil thiner. but i must say he has tried the Corgidor (Labrador+Cardi corgi) with my black lab and its quit funny to watch, but they are both fixed so i wont have to deal with that. lol
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He must have very high energy being a Corgi/Heeler mix! He is beautiful and accidental cross breeding will happen but I don't think it should be done intentionally.
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Permalink Reply by Renee on
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I just want to know how these so called breeders can charge so much for a " mutt".
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Permalink Reply by Joanna Kimball on
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"Hybrid vigor" is not a given. You can cross two very unrelated individuals and get a terrible result or you can get a great result. If, by crossing them, you happen to hit a combination of genes that is fortuitous it leads to faster growth, better resistance to disease, better utilization of food, etc.
What people are doing when they cross-breed dogs is neither hybridizing nor selecting for vigor. Dogs of European origin (which includes virtually all of them except the primitives like the Sloughi and the Asia-origin Chow) were only separated from one another a couple of hundred years ago (at most). They have not had time to become far enough apart, genetically, to get any benefit from hybridizing. When people breed a poodle and a Labrador, they're putting back together genes that are only separated by a few hundred generations (or less). There's no real hybridization.
In addition, "vigor" when it comes to animal breeding is a real thing with a real definition. It means (as above) resistance to disease, increased size, utilization of less food, etc. Nobody breeding "designer dogs" is even measuring those things, much less claiming to improve them. They just refer to some mysterious "hybrid vigor" as though any dog you buy from them is going to live to be fifteen.
If you bred a corgi to a Sloughi, you could quite possibly get a dog who can use lower-quality food to grow faster, or who would have a slightly better chance of fighting off distemper if they were exposed to it. That's what hybrid vigor is. You would NOT get a dog who was flawless or "combined the best of both worlds."
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Where there is sometimes something to it is when a particular breed has developed a very limited gene pool, which leaves it genetically weak in addition to having some genetic illnesses that are fairly unique to the breed.
I know from reading about conservation of wild species, once a species gets down to a low enough number, a lot of genetic risk comes into play.
There is an isolated population of wolves on some island that is riddled with health problems not common to their more free-ranging cousins.
So for those breeds with low genetic variability, and high incidences of genetic problems, opening up the breed and bringing in new blood (dogs that are not cousins) can, if carefully done, help--- at least in theory.
But those breeding "designer dogs" are doing no such thing; they're just grabbing a random (often poor quality) poodle and breeding to a random (often poor quality) lab.
When we talk about cats, that is different because the Domestic Short Hair is mostly free-breeding, and a certain amount of natural selection is still in play; roaming unneutered cats often have mediocre care, off-and-on access to shelter, sporadic meals, and lack of vaccinations. And so the genetically fittest are most likely to survive and successfully rear litters, compared to their highly pampered breed-named cousins. The same is true to a lesser degree of true mutts, or "village dogs" who descend from half-owned pets that are allowed to wander at will and meet a speedy end if they are not healthy and quick-witted.
But again, that's not what the breeders of designer hybrids are doing either.
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