Pup doesn't pay attention / Biting
I have been trying to start basic training with Azura but i have run into a bit of a wall as she doesn't pay attention to me at all. And when she does its through really rough play, which is another thing she will need to work on. Just this morning i had to literally pry her teeth out of my hand.
So far for the biting and rough play, i have tried the ignoring method but that doesn't seem to work as she really doesn't seem to care if I'm even in the room. If i turn my back to her she just goes over by the door where the cooler air flows through and flops over to go to sleep. I plan to start locking her in her kennel next to see if that helps but i worry that with her already not "needing" me that it will lead to her resenting me more then anything else.
As for trying to get her to pay attention i have tried hiding treats in my hands and waiting for her to look at me before letting her get one but she doesn't seem too interested in it. She will sniff and lick at my hands for a couple seconds but then she will just give up and go lay down, never once even looking at my face. The treats i have tried are cheerios, her normal puppy food and then some beef and cheese flavored soft treats. All of which she likes but doesn't go crazy for. Tonight i plan to try some other stuff, carrots and maybe some hot dogs or baloney lunch meat. Also do try to do the training in my room, but she seems to think being in here means its time to sleep, which does plenty of... unless I'm trying to sleep and then she is chewing on my hair or ears. (She refuses to stay in the kennel if the door is closed and im still working on getting her to like it, i plan to try a peanut butter kong tonight and see how she does with it. I think her issue is it gets hot in there, which is why her favorite spot seems to be by my door.)
I had looked through google to see what i could find for tips and in most it sounds like the dog should be catching on pretty fast so I'm not sure if I'm just not doing something right or if she really just doesn't care one way or the other. Other wise she is doing pretty well, house training is going well and leash training is great. I have been using a double leash to get her used to the area we are in and let her run a bit. She does really well with keeping up and honestly its the only time she really acts like she wants me around lol. She doesn't come when called yet but if i bend down and hold out my hand she will come running expecting a treat.
She also loves to be out in the living room and in our fenced yard with our other dogs, she will play for hours, often wearing the other dogs out. In which case she resorts to running laps in our kitchen and sliding on the rugs.
Anyway i will happily take any tips anyone may have or links to other posts that deal with these issues. Also i know puppy classes would go along way but at the moment i cant afford to it yet, so i want to do what i can for now.
Pictures :
Figured i would attach some pictures i took of her, she is cute but a devil at the same time lol.
The first is her "using" my pillow, which is also what she did to my hand this morning.
The second is her playing with the Kong Wubba toy, she doesn't seem interested in the squeaker but she likes the straps. My pillow is pretty big (used to be part of a couch) so i hide the toy under it and let her get a glimpse of those tail straps and then pull it under she goes nuts trying to squeeze her way under to find it. Which is what she is doing in the third picture.
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Permalink Reply by Beth on
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Here's something on capture training, but it's focused on adult dogs. With puppies and very simple commands like sit, I give the cue as they are doing it because it reinforces the idea that words have meaning (which they need to know).
Once a dog knows what training means and is moving to more complex things (stay, back up, etc) I don't give the command til the behavior is consistent, as this article mentions.
http://www.dog-training-excellence.com/capturing-a-dog-behavior.html
Up above you say "I'm not sure if she was sitting on command or just sitting because it made looking up at me easier." But at this point sitting because it's easy is just fine; you want training to be a game til she is at least six or eight months old, and probably more like a year old. You give the command only when you are sure they are complying.
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Permalink Reply by Bryan Stevenson on
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Yea that makes sense, she seems to be doing alright, its just that she does it when she wants to. And I'm sure alot of it is her age. Like you had said before, i have always been used to lab puppies that are happy for you to be looking in their direction. This is my first herding puppy, its alot different then what i was expecting but that's alright. I'm sure she will end up being a smart happy dog. And on the bright side she doesn't have that huge tongue that wants to stalk you.
One of our other dogs is like that, you glance in his direction and he is all over you trying to shove his tongue down your throat lol.
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She is only 8 weeks, which i know is part of it and another big part is that she has only been here a few days now. On the bright side, having the other dogs with her has helped her to adjust pretty fast. And they have helped her to learn the potty training basics. They helped her figure out the steps out side our house really fast too, well going up anyway... going down is another story.
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Permalink Reply by Bev Levy on
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I agree, she is an infant and living in a strange place trying to learn the language. At this point I would stick with the high pitched yelp for biting and stopping play. It takes awhile for babies to learn "cause and effect" to their actions so be patient. I like Beth's description of capturing but don't have really high expectations yet. Right now you just want her to learn that you are fun and what your expectations are. Fortunately puppies learn alot faster than human babies! I have found corgis to be very easy to train but so smart that you can inadvertantly train them things...they are more observant than most breeds. Your behavior has a huge impact on what they learn.
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Permalink Reply by Jane Christensen on
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She's only 8 weeks you are expecting way too much! I don't have time tonight but will write more Tues. BUT...puppy bite...owner yips or says owe!!!!! Turn away and ignore so she knows she doesn't get attention for biting.
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Permalink Reply by Roger/Laurie on
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Chepstow has never been motivated by treats. """Yes, he is 100% corgi.""" When he was young we could only reward him by petting or verbally. We were so lucky that he was a perfect puppy at all times and rarely did anything wrong. Verbal praise and petting still are more important to him 7 years later than any treat. But he does love his breakfast and dinner.
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I started hand feeding her yesterday and now after just a couple meals she is almost a different puppy, her attitude towards me is almost completely turned around. She has even gotten to the point where when she flops over to sleep, she makes sure its in a spot where she can see me. Her favorite spot so far is where i pile my dirty clothes, she loves sleeping on my socks lol.
As for treating, that one has been interesting, she turns her nose up fast to peanut butter and carrots but seems to like cheese, I'm going to try some lunch meat today and see what she does. She also doesn't seem that interested in petting, but i suspect that's because she gets too hot or because she seems to think the simplest touch means rough play but at least she is getting better. The other dogs are helping to teach her when she goes to far, they snap at her if she bites too hard and think she is getting the idea.
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